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Monday, October 1, 2012

My Hybrid Theory of Human Origins, with Graphics

I believe that sometime in ancient history, the true Human type (Homo Sapiens sapiens) bred females with males of certain Ape and Monkey species.  That's too shocking for most people to accept (and is equally overwhelming for me, rest assured).  However, I believe there's plenty of evidence to support my theory.  In my opinion, they did it for one of two reasons (or perhaps for both reasons, at different times):  1) To repopulate themselves after some major environmental catastrophe(s) nearly wiped out Mankind.... and 2) Later, to create "slave races", such as India's "monkey armies", etc.

Slavery has been an unpleasant issue for our species, for many millenia.  I have several books on the subject, most of which try to sugar-coat its history while laying blame for it on one particular race:  the so-called "white" (or Aryan) race.  Note that Aryan and Caucasoid are not quite synonymous.  I believe that Aryans were perhaps a slave race themselves at first, originally Neanderthals.

Cro-Magnon + Rhesus Macaque monkey = Neanderthal
Cro-Magnon + Chimpanzee = Denisovan
Cro-Magnon + Gorilla = Homo Erectus

(Perhaps the Orangutan, which carries AB bloodtypes, is some sort of Ape hybrid apart from Homo Sapiens).

The Neanderthal hybrid back-bred with Cro-Magnons to create most modern Europeans.

The Denisovan hybrid back-bred with Cro-Magnon to create Papua New Guineans, some Australoids, and some Polynesians, Indonesians and/or South Asians.

The Homo Erectus hybrid back-bred with Cro-Magnons to create most mainland Chinese.

The Neanderthal populations flowed back into Africa at various times, from whence I suppose Cro-Magnon may have originated.  I personally believe Cro-Magnon originated around the Mediterranean region (North Africa, the Caucasus region, etc.).  The Denisovan and Homo Erectus likely flowed outward from Africa; while the Neanderthal originated in India and flowed into other regions from there.

If Native Americans truly do have both Denisovan and Neanderthal genes (and I suspect they must have some Homo Erectus DNA also), it means that all of those populations (which may have included some purebred Cro-Magnons) flowed into the Americas at various times.

I suppose it's also possible that the Cro-Magnons were already situated in the American continents, prior to the invasions or immigrations of the Hybrid tribes.  To me that makes perfect sense, because other mammals once found in the Americas and currently extinct, such as the Camel, Horse, Tiger, Mammoth and Marsupials, now exist in different forms in places like Africa and Australia.  Perhaps all of those mammals including Human beings (ie Homo Sapiens) were once situated worldwide, and some simply became extinct at various times due to different climatic issues.

To me that suggests that Homo Sapiens, being more mobile than any other mammals, probably originated at various locations worldwide; then were affected by environmental issues and constant migrations.  In the midst of all those specific developments, some of them found it necessary or desirable to hybridize themselves with certain native Monkeys and Apes.  After the F1 generations of Human / Ape hybrids were bred, they simply kept back-breeding at least part of their populations with them.

I do not believe that Neanderthal, Homo Erectus, and Denisovan (or any other hybrid types) were "archaic".  That is, I don't believe they preceded Homo Sapiens (or, Cro-Magnon) chronologically.  However, they obviously had to precede "Anatomically Modern Humans".

Likewise, I don't consider those hybrids in any way "superior" to the true archaic Homo Sapiens, Human type.  They didn't survive because they're superior.  If they'd been superior, they would have displaced Humans completely.  Instead, they were subsumed or absorbed by the Human population.  That's why so many modern Humans carry their genes.  Some obviously have more than their share of some of them.

It's important to remember however, that Human DNA is typically dominant compared with Ape genes, within the parameters of Human / Lower Primate Hybridization.  "Dominant" means that only one copy from one parent is needed for the specific genetic trait to be expressed in the phenome of offspring.  Recessive traits (most of which are inherited from the relevant lower primate genes involved in Human Hybridization) require two copies, one from each parent, in order to express traits.

I believe geneticists need to take a cold, hard look at the genes of Gorillas, Chimpanzees, Rhesus monkeys, and other similar lower primates, which might have hybridized with Humans in the past.  They're already aware of the potential for hybridization with those species, because they talk about doing such experiments even now.  I say, it's already been done; and they need to make the necessary comparisons, in order to establish just how much of it has been accomplished so far.

I will now go on record, that I don't consider Human hybridization at all beneficial.  In fact, to me it was and continues to be, a tragedy for Mankind.

Also note, that the three known hybrid populations back-bred not only with Humans (Cro-Magnons), but also with one another, at different times and places throughout history.  In fact, today I wonder whether there are any pure Human or Cro-Magnon types left at all.

Stan Gooch, and others with their own Hybrid theories, express the belief that Neanderthal was once a separate and distinct species, which of course bred with Cro-Magnon or Homo Sapiens, resulting in Anatomically Modern Humans.  They believe that Neanderthals were killed and/or absorbed genetically by Homo Sapiens.  But, I don't believe Neanderthal was an original species; instead it, like Homo Erectus and Denisovan, were themselves hybrids.  They were the first generations, or F1 hybrid crosses between Homo Sapiens and Rhesus monkeys or Apes.

Modern Apes and Rhesus monkeys retain their original genomes for the most part (unless some Apes have hybridized with other lower Apes, which I don't doubt one bit), while Human genomes have been altered irreparably and indefinitely.  Although there have been some limitations involved in retaining the hybrid genes, matters of fecundity and fertility, etc. -- in the long run, enough of those genes survive today in the modern Human population to make AMHs entirely different from the original Homo Sapiens sapiens.  Not only is our species completely transformed from its original state as a whole, it is also fractured into scores upon scores of subspecies or subtypes -- all of them varieties of hybrids.

Anyone who can't feel sorrow concerning Man's hybrid biological history, cannot possibly have enough Humanity left in them to understand its implications.  Anyone who thinks it's quite alright, even kind of "cool", to be part Ape or Monkey -- probably is too much Ape or Monkey to think otherwise.

Personally, I think that Humankind is in far greater danger than most of us realize.  Somewhere along the way, we forgot what a true Human being really is.  Probably, the best parts of our intelligence, wisdom, and morality was bred out of most of us.  And those few who remain, are repeatedly assured from birth that "we're all Human beings".  So, even though many or most "Human beings" may not seem all that Human to some of us; we have no argument if we don't know the truth, the facts.  Not knowing, is like strolling through a forest full of Grizzly bears without a weapon for self-defense.  It's like swimming across the Pacific ocean without a life-preserver.  All our lives, we have simply assumed that those humanoid creatures we encounter daily are all Human beings, like ourselves.  That's what we've been told, anyway; and we had no reason, no evidence, to believe otherwise.  Some of us often wonder how it is that Human beings may behave so primitively, so beastly.  Now I know why.

And sorting out the genetic evidence for Humanity is going to be very difficult if not impossible, because that's one area of science that is most likely to be affected by bias and/or prejudice.  It's a question of identity, of ego; also of survival itself.  Everyone will certainly want to be classified as 'Human'; or, more Human than Hybrid... I quite expect those in power -- the powers that be, so to speak -- to proclaim themselves the "true Humans", or the "superior" ones.  So, I'm not looking to Science much, for the answers.  When it comes to defining Humanity, I have my own definition; and I'm sure it's quite different from theirs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Gooch

An outline of some of Stan Gooch's observations regarding differences in personality between Neanderthal types and Cro-Magnons.  Here, System A refers to his idea of the classic Cro-Magnon type; System B is how he saw Neanderthals.  Naturally, Hybrids are blends of both types (along with perhaps other types of hybrids, such as Denisovan and Homo Erectus).  Normally Human (Homo Sapiens) genes are dominant (require only one copy for expression of traits); however, the recessive Hybrid traits may be expressed whenever an individual receives two copies (one from each parent) of particular genes.  It is somehow quite relevant, which genes in an individual happen to express themselves as Human or otherwise, since most of them perform fairly specific, limited functions:

System A

System B
SunMoon
PsychosisNeurosis
LogicIntuition
ScienceReligion
AwakeDreaming
AdultChild
DayNight
GodDevil
MaleFemale
YangYin
FascismCommunism

Stan Gooch was a real genius, but unfortunately for himself and for the world, a man far ahead of his own time.  I only learned about him this week, when writing this post.  I developed my Hybrid Theory completely independent from any others, in fact until I stumbled on it myself, I wasn't even aware that there was such a thing (I've only owned my own computor with internet, for about the last five years; and only began researching DNA and related subjects within the past ~three years).

However, since Dr. Gooch based his theory on the mistaken idea that Neanderthals preceded Homo Sapiens biologically (ie, that Cro-Magnons evolved from them), many elements of his otherwise very eloquent descriptions of Neanderthals and Cro-Magnons are exactly backwards.  Here is how I would list the various characteristics differently from his own conclusions, noted above:

System A (Cro-Magnon, or True Human Type):

  • Moon (Pre-Glacial period)
  • Neurosis (Reactions to Stress)
  • Intuition (Extra-Sensory Perception)
  • Religion (Spirituality)
  • Dreaming (Awareness of the Sub-Conscience)
  • Child (Innocence)
  • Day (Efficient Utilization of Resources)
  • God (Morality)
  • Female (Matriarchy)
  • Yin (Peace Highly Valued)
  • Communism (Fair and Equitable Treatment for All Individuals -- Love of Fellow Man, Love of Freedom)

System B (Neanderthal, or Hybrid Type):

  • Sun (Post-Glacial period)
  • Psychosis (Thrill/Sensation Seeking -- Based in an Inability to Feel, Whether Physically or Emotionally)
  • Logic (Reliance on Physical Senses at the Expense of Theoretical Thought -- Inability to Think "Outside of the Box")
  • Science (Materialism)
  • Awake (Hyper-Awareness of Physical Surroundings, Vigilance)
  • Adult (Alpha Male Idolatry; Sexual Promiscuity, Sexual Perversion, Homosexuality, Loss of Innocence, Cynicism)
  • Night (Restlessness, Obsessive Ambition, Acquisitiveness, Greed, Gluttony, OCD behavior)
  • Devil (Superstition)
  • Male (Patriarchy)
  • Yang (Aggression)
  • Fascism (Obsessive Need for Omnipotent Control; Slavery)

Gooch was a Psychologist, so he got some key points of the general differences in personality and physique exactly right.  But, he allowed the misconception which results from Darwinistic beliefs (Evolution especially) to lead him off course regarding other ones.  For example, he stated that Neanderthals were generally shorter, which is correct; but then he made the error of contributing the trait of male pattern baldness to Cro-Magnons, which is wrong.

It is quite possible that Gooch had a hard time maintaining objectivity if indeed he had considerable Neanderthal or other Hybrid DNA within his own genome.  Many people tend to hold in higher esteem, those traits with which they most identify -- whether they be good or bad, right or wrong.  Likewise, they tend to place negative labels (like "Neanderthal" or "Hybrid") upon people whose traits are polar opposites from their own -- regardless of the evidence.  And of course, in Gooch's day (when his books were published) there wasn't yet quite enough evidence.  Geneticists are still working -- very slowly -- on that problem.  However they seem to be getting warmer now; but they also seem fearful of what truths they might uncover in the process.

http://www.phylotree.org./resources/mtDNA_human_relatives.htm

http://vet.sagepub.com/content/23/2/198.full.pdf
(Dwarfism and Hermaphroditism in Rhesus monkeys).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK7573/
(Discusses Dwarfism and Hermaphroditism).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6476626
(Camptomelic dysplasia associated with true hermaphroditism).
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/true+hermaphroditism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_sexual_orientation

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When Deinekes doesn't wish to argue with you, they simply censor your comments.  I made the following comments to the above blog, on 18 Oct, 2012, the same day the blog was published.
A...""The main finding seems to be that the comparison with chimpanzee Y chromosome alone was misleading and that further comparison in the simian tree **(rhesus macaque)** actually found Y chromosomes very similar to those of our species."

"The macaque Y contained just one gene that humans have lost, and that gene resides on a particularly unstable portion of the Y. The human Y has grown much longe
r than the macaque’s, but the genes were **mostly the same**."


Human Rhesus negative bloodtype is compatible with Macaque blood, because it doesn't agglutinate when the two are mixed together.

I believe the Neanderthals were the first cross, F1 generation of Hybrids between particular female Humans x male Rhesus monkeys.

The male Neanderthal Hybrids may have been mostly sterile, but some may have produced offspring with other female Humans.

Due to blood incompatibility, many (but perhaps not all) of the female Hybrids probably were only able to bear one live infant to term, and only with a Human sire.

Any live offspring between two Hybrids probably weren't usually physically or mentally capable of producing healthy progeny.

"... the lack of mtDNA lineages of Neandertal origin..."

This is why I believe the female parents of the Hybrids were Human (Homo Sapiens, or Cro-Magnon).

"...how did the admixture take place?"

1- A desperate attempt to repopulate the Human species after some cataclysmic event, such as a supervolcano, ice age, or flood.

2- Slavery. They were deliberately bred to produce a 'slave race' so to speak, by the same Agriculturalists who created other hybrids like cattle, etc.

India's "monkey armies"."
B..."With regards to head and pelvic sizes and shapes, I just know that in the AMH population there are four basic types of female pelvis:

1- The so-called "Human" pelvis, the most commonplace type with the roundest shaped aperture. Found mostl
y among Caucasoid [["Aryan", "European", or "White" would have been a better choices of terminology, probably]] populations. This one generally has the easiest experience with childbirth. Officially called the Gynacoid pelvis.

2- The so-called "Ape" pelvis, with the aperture elongated from front to back. Found mostly among African populations. This one experiences many premature deliveries and other complications. Now known as the Anthropoid pelvis.

3- The so-called "Android" pelvis, which resembles a male pelvis. This one has the most difficulty at delivery, usually requiring C-section. Before the days of C-sections, many of these women would probably have died in childbirth.

4- The so-called "Archaic" pelvis. The most rare type, with an oval shape that runs laterally. This one very frequently results in a breech birth for the first delivery, and that of course might have been problematic in days before modern medical procedures. Now known as the Platypelloid pelvis. This pelvic type is more commonly found among Asian women than in the general population (more than 27% among Asian females).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7096006





In my opinion, in AMH populations all of these pelvic types probably represent the effects of some form of Hybridization or another, maybe even mixed types.

The same generality could be made about modern cranial shapes, because of the vast number of diverse types."
Another thing which troubles me about Deinkekes, is that despite his intense interest in the subject, he often censors my thoughts on his blogs.  I wouldn't put it past him to steal my ideas, and censoring certain of my comments while allowing other ones leads me to believe that's what he's doing.  This way he can take credit for my ideas, if any of them turn out to be proven correct.  All of my comments that have been censored by him, have been in regards to Human Hybridization and the Neanderthal Theory.  Every single one of them.

So, I asked him point blank:

C..."Are you censoring my comments on Human Hybridization and the Neanderthal Theory, for the purpose of stealing my ideas and taking credit for them if they should be proven correct?  I believe so, because there's a pattern there."

Of the three comments, only the third one has been published.  Oh well, one out of three is better than nothing I guess.

Here, he responded to my accusation:

Deinekes:  "I am deleting comments in violation of blog rules, since this is my blog, and I decide which comments are acceptable and which are not.

You are of course free to make your own blog and post whatever you want in it."

Now I'm convinced more than ever, that's what he's doing.

Unless, he finds my theories too controversial or ego-deflating to entertain on his blog, whether or not he chooses to reply to them.  Truth does hurt some people, for others like me it sets us free.  And if I happen to be wrong, what harm is there in simply discussing or just stating different possibilities?

"It is but sorrow to be wise, when wisdom profits not."  Tiresias

(Lots of good ones, here.)
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UPDATE:  Deinekes has since posted racist comments by the hypocritical racist, Oetzi Jr, on the very same blog article, so I take it that's quite "acceptable" to him.  Also, these comments seem to be directed toward me, since I have both "brown eyes" and mtDNA W, supposedly ("Wilma", according to author Bryan Sykes) -- it's actually probably X2m1, since Family Tree DNA is lame-o.  Additionally, Oetzi Jr had to make quite a stretch of the facts himself, in order to label green or hazel eyes "brown":
"Notice how Wilma's eye colour changed from brown to blue.

- Brown.
- Blue.

On a palaeo-dating site I would not even bother anymore to check her pelvis size if she's already lying about something crucial as eye colour..."
On another note, it's really too bad that so many men base sexual selection more on material things like novel eye and hair colors, and on sizable dowries (ie money), instead of on Human traits like morality and intelligence.
(Oetzi had BROWN EYES and type O blood, lol.)

I can't help but notice that although the Oetzi carcass' mtDNA is known to science, they don't make it public; also, they have his entire genome but fail to state whether or not he had Rhesus negative bloodtype or any Neanderthal genes.  I really hate when scientists claim to have such information and draw certain conclusions from it, without publishing the actual raw data supposedly used by them for each case.

UPDATE: The ancient Oetzi carcass is said to possess quite a lot of Neanderthal genes (I'll try to relocate the link I found about it); so, go figure.

UPDATE:  I try once again to reach them on Deinekes (posted 10/23/2012 to the same article blog as above)...

"http://genepath.med.harvard.edu/~reich/Human-Chimp.pdf

According to David Reich of Harvard and MIT, at least some Humans might have / probably did breed with Chimpanzees.

So, my theory that original Humans (Homo Sapiens or Cro-Magnons, ie pre-AMH) bred with not just Chimps but also Gorillas and Rhesus monkeys (and perhaps other as yet unknown species) at various times throughout history is not all that far-fetched.  There's enough genetic evidence to support the theory.

Such hybridizations could explain the existence of the numerous and varied 'extinct' hominids of which we now have only a few of their bones.  Being F1 first cross hybrid generations, they would naturally have died out fairly quickly as soon as the inter-species breeding practices were discontinued.

UPDATE, 10/24/2012:  My comment wasn't published, so I can only assume that Deinekes wishes to perpetuate his own mythological, wishful thinking surrounding the mystery of the Neanderthal.  As I've mentioned before, people who know themselves to possess a quantity of Neanderthal genes seem hellbent on glorifying or romanticizing themselves through myth, fiction, and conjecture.  I personally don't know how much of it I possess (although I hope not much), despite the fact that mtDNA haplogroups W, I, and X have perhaps very unfairly been labelled "Neanderthal" by Eupedia and certain other hysterical, imaginative types.  It's altogether reasonable to assume that not all of the many subclades of those three mitochondrial groups may be rightly associated with Neanderthal genes, even if some of them might be.

I just can't help but wonder what they're so afraid of, that they won't even allow the theory to be discussed?  Is the truth that difficult to accept?  Or what if I'm wrong, and it isn't true after all?  I want to get to the bottom of the mystery; and I'm so tired of the so-called authorities pussy-footing, dancing around the issue, refusing to confront questions and ideas about it.  I'm equally fed up with all the hyperbole and the sheer hype they keep feeding the public.  They're hiding something, I know it.  The truth is right in front of our eyes, but they're throwing up smoke and mirrors and making a lot of noise, in order to distract us from it.  It can only be because they fear what the truth might do to their own public images.  They fear a loss of power and authority, if the facts come out about who and what they really are.  They're Hybrids, part animal... not fully Human.


He doesn't avoid the subject of Hybridization altogether, just studiously skirts around the issue of bestiality.  Bestiality is traditionally taboo of course, and rightly so... But does that mean we should pretend it has never happened?  Not in my book.  Incest is also taboo, but we know for a fact that in times past it has happened all too often.  Science tends to avoid acknowledging that unpleasant history as well.
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Another good Anthropology blog, very informative.  This person, known as "Maju" in his comments, is another one who has received an overabundance of rude treatment from "Deinekes Pontikos".
Maju's political / social blog.
A blog which Maju has abandonned.  But, it seems to have interesting archives.

Here's a good one in Spanish.  Thank Google for translators.

Another good find.
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(My comment was published this time, yeah!)

(He mentions that at some time in history the Neanderthal beast replaced or displaced Homo Sapiens within the Levant region.)

("The idea that this fossil tells us what the last common ancestor looks like is unfounded. Ardi is a spectacular discovery, but it may actually be an early side branch of hominids that is not even directly related to Lucy or humans. It’s naive to think every fossil you find is directly on the line leading to humans. And if we evolved from a monkeylike quadruped,” as Lovejoy’s analysis of Ardi’s hands suggests, “then all our extensive anatomy related to suspension and hanging would have evolved in parallel to the great apes. That’s possible but unlikely.”)

More proof that some of the "Human" population possesses Ape DNA.

UPDATE (11/29/2012): An exciting new breakthrough in yDNA knowledge.
(An excellent lecture by Mike Hammer.)
(Here, you can look up the DNA patterns for Chimps - 6RCUU, Gorillas - 9ED3A, and the new Human yDNA root - 6M5JA.  The new root is called A00, and is thought to be "closer to  Neanderthals or other archaic humans than we thought."  LMAO.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/11/a00-at-ftdna2012-history-in-making.html
Dienekes was way ahead of me with this one.
http://prezi.com/kz2c-q4b-_m1/a00-on-the-y-haplogroup-tree/


Blood factors, such as "Diego" and "Rhesus" are going to be one of the main keys to solving the mysteries of Human origins.


Someone has opinions, criticisms about Rick Potvin... go figure.

Lol, he can't be serious; besides, he prescribes to the usual misconceptions.  I suppose it's possible that he's only as confused as most people.
This is a good one.
More; is he for real, or not?
Darwin's work is little understood, and often misquoted.
From a quick scan of this post, I gather that he was involved in Cryonics for many years, but grew disenchanted with the Jewish company to which he's paid a considerable amount of money.  Wow.  In my opinion, Cryonics is the Jewish Hybrid's atheistic attempt to attain immortality via their god: Science.

Another source I found through Potvin's website. Eric Hufschmid is linked through that site, too.

Lol.
Good post.

I've conversed with Potvin on the above four posts at his blog... So far, he seems sincere; but I'm acutely aware of what good actors trolls can be, and I'm no longer the blindly trusting soul I used to be.  Call me paranoid, that's alright; I'd rather be overly vigilant than not enough.  I'm also painfully aware of all the rampant confusion everywhere, most of it due to lies, deception, propaganda and wars (which cause dire losses of historical records holding at least some truth).  I guess time will tell, whether or not he is for real (ie a bona-fide truth-seeker) -- or I might never figure it out, and I would have to accept that too.  Either way, it gave me an opportunity to explore some of my ideas concerning Hybrids in greater depth.  And too, his blog is rather interesting; he seems like a fairly interesting character.

Cryonics Cafeteria, wtf? Huh? Lol.
Very strange, indeed.
This YouTuber is associated with DeviantArt... Andrew Auernheimer. Hmm.  Also notice the mark of the Beast on his name (ie 666).

I've gotta admit, I'm learning a lot from Potvin.  I've heard about some of these theories already, of course... but, this website is new for me.




(Lol, he decided to use the Chimpanzee genome instead of Paleo-African, in his statistical studies.)

The controversy over the numbers of chromosomes possessed by Human beings, Hybrids, and lower Primates, should hold a major key to the puzzle of what defines a Human being.

From Genome: The Autobiography of a Species in 23 Chapters by Matt Ridley...

"Sometimes the obvious can stare you in the face.  Until 1955, it was agreed that human beings had twenty-four pairs of chromosomes.  It was just one of those facts that everybody knew was right.  They knew it was right because in 1921 a Texan named Theophilus Painter had sliced thin sections off the testicles of two black men and one white man castrated for insanity and 'self-abuse', fixed the slices in chemicals and examined them under the microscope.  Painter tried to count the tangled mass of unpaired chromosomes he could see in the spermatocytes of the unfortunate men, and arrived at the figure of twenty-four.  'I feel confident that this is correct,' he said.  Others later repeated his experiment in other ways.  All agreed the number was twenty-four.

"For thirty years, nobody disputed this 'fact'.  One group of scientists abandoned their experiments on human liver cells because they could only find twenty-three pairs of chromosomes in each cell.  Another researcher invented a method of separating the chromosomes, but still he thought he saw twenty-four pairs.  It was not until 1955, when an Indonesian named Joe-Hin Tjio travelled from Spain to Sweden to work with Albert Levan, that the truth dawned.  Tjio and Levan, using better techniques, plainly saw twenty-three pairs.  They even went back and counted twenty-three pairs in books where the caption stated that there were twenty-four pairs.  There are none so blind as do not wish to see.

"It is actually rather surprising that human beings do not have twenty-four pairs of chromosomes.  Chimpanzees have twenty-four pairs of chromosomes; so do gorillas and orang utans.  Among the apes we are the exception.  Under the microscope, the most striking and obvious difference between ourselves and all the other great apes is that we have one pair less.  The reason, it immediately becomes apparent, is not that ta pair of ape chromosomes has gone missing in us, but that two ape chromosomes have fused together in us.  Chromosome 2, the second biggest of the human chromosomes, is in fact formed from the fusion of two medium-sized ape chromosomes, as can be seen from the pattern of black strands on the respective chromosomes."

I get the feeling that like the Rhesus negative bloodtype debate, which itself involves so much obvious deception and misinformation on the parts of "authorities", there is far more to this story.

"I'm not naive enough to think that such an approach would reveal a "genius gene" they all possessed, but still, it is not inconceivable that something of interest about their origins -if not their genetic predispositions- might turn up."

Me:  Deinekes, I bet they don't want us to know that those geniuses had or have 24 pairs of chromosomes (instead of 23).

(... Since I mispelled his name, he probably won't post it, lol.)

UPDATE:  I was wrong again; he published it later -- yeah!!

Ashley Montagu's c1945 Introduction to Physical Anthropology book, in full text online. (He was born, "Israel Ehrenberg", and is the author of a grade-school Sociology textbook in my possession.)  By the way, the text was published by Osmania Universtity press (in India).

"The Osmania University is a public state university located in Hyderabad, India, founded in 1908.  It was established and named after the last Nizam of Hyderabad, Mir Osman Ali Khan.  It is one of the oldest modern universities in India."  [Wikipedia]
http://www.osmania.ac.in/

UPDATE:  The text actually was printed in the USA (my mistake), but not by any university apparently, although it cites Montagu as being a professor at Rutgers.  The book was actually found in a collection at the Osmania University library, instead.

Quoting from the Anthropology book:

"CRITERIA AND MECHANISM OF ETHNIC DIFFERENTIATION [p] 255"

"Secreting factors have been found in 78 per cent of Berlin whites, 84.2 per cent of New York whites, and 61.2 per cent of American Negroes.  It is also known that secreting factors are present in the anthropoid apes..."
"Even more valuable than the blood groups and the M-N blood types in the genetic investigation of mankind are the Rh blood types.

"When the blood of a rhesus monkey is injected into rabbits or guinea pigs a serum is obtained which has the property of agglutinating the blood of approximately 85 per cent of white persons, quite independently of the blood groups and M-N blood types to which they may belong.  Such persons possess an agglutinable factor of some complexity on the surface of their red blood corpuscles, and this (from the first two letters of the name of the rhesus monkey, in which it was discovered in 1937 by Landsteiner and Wiener) is now called the Rh factor.  Persons possessing this factor are said to be Rh-positive, persons lacking it are said to be Rh-negative.  We now know that there are three Rh factors, the original Rh , which is by far the most powerful and clinically most important, and rh', and rh".  Type rh blood lacks all three factors so that it can therefore be safely used in cases of intragroup incompatability due to Rh factors.

"The three elementary factors or antigens Rh , rh', and rh", have three theoretically possible contrasting factors designated Hr , hr' and hr".  Every blood possesses either an Rh factor or an Hr factor or both, derived from the pairs of allelic genes Rh -Hr () , rh'-hr', and rh"-hr".  The Hr factors are less antigenic (that is, less capable of stimulating the formation of specific reacting substances) than the Rh factors.  The three elementary Rh factors, it is now known, (together with the Hr factors hr' and hr") determine 8 agglutinogens, as shown in the following diagram:

"[Elementary factors]

"Until recently there were believed to be five Rh agglutinogens together with the blood type possessing no Rh agglutinogens, the rh type, determined by six major allelic genes designated R l, R 2 , R (}, r', r" y and r, the latter being the recessive gene in the series of six.  Since every person has but one pair of Rh genes, one derived from the maternal pair and the other from the paternal pair, the possible ways in which any of the six genes can be combined are 21.  In other words, 21 genotypes are possible which express themselves in eight Rh blood types or phenotypes.  The Rh type of the individual is therefore the expression of his genotype determined by a single pair of genes, each allele or member of the pair being derived from the opposite parent.  The 21 possible genotypes (not all of which are at persent serologically recognizable) and the eight Rh blood types are shown in Table 11.

"[TABLE 11. RH BLOOD TYPES, GENOTYPES AND PHENOTYPES]...

"In reality there are probably more than a dozen Rh genes.  To the six principal allelic Rh genes which have been referred to above three recently discovered additional Rh genes must be added.  These are the genes r y , 7? lw , and R 7 , making a total of nine completely identified Rh genes, written, in italics, as follows: r, i f i r", r y , R, R 1 , R 2 , R }w , and R'.  The first four genes belong to the Rh-negative series of the gene rh, and the last five genes to the Rh-positive series of gene Rh.  Each gene determines a corresponding agglutinogen; in order to distinguish the latter from the former the agglutinogens are written un-italicized, the "h" of "rhesus" is retained, and subscripts are used, as follows: rh, rhi, rhn, rh y , Rh , Rh,, Rh 2 , Rh jw , and Rh z .  With nine Rh genes the number of theoretical Rh genotypes is increased to 45 with 24 corresponding serologically distinguishable phenotypes.  We need not, however, consider these theoretical possibilities here, since they would unnecessarily serve to complicate the picture, and most phenotypes are, in any case, rare.  Suffice it to say that of the three recently discovered genes, r y and R 7 are extremely rare in whites, r y being so rare that there is practically no data on it at all, though the suspicion is that it may occur less rarely in Mongoloids, while R 7 is known to occur in 3 to 6 per cent of Asiatics, American Indians, and Australian aborigines.

"The distribution of the Rh types in human groups promises to be anthropologically more enlightening than that of any other serological trait.  Something o this distribution in Samples of various populations may be seen from Table 12...

"It will be observed from Table 12 that type rh is absent or virtually so from the blood of all groups with known Mongoloid traits.  It will also be observed that there is a virtually complete absence of the type rh in the Australian aborigines and in the Papuans of New Guinea.  Furthermore, that while the distribution of the 8 Rh types in the Australian aborigines roughly resembles that seen in the Mongoloids, with the exception of a complete absence of type rh the pattern even more closely resembles that seen in whites.  This pattern is very different in the Papuans.  The Mongoloid plus Caucasoid character of the Rh blood types in the Australian aborigines is extremely interesting for the reason that the latter have usually been classified with the Archaic Caucasoid stock which is of more or less remote Asiatic origin.  In the character of their Rh blood types the Australian aborigines may therefore be exhibiting the evidences of a relationship with stocks of Mongoloid character on the one hand and Caucasoid character on the other.  The fact that the Australian aborigines are relatively high in Rh 2 is possibly suggestive of the Negroid component in their ancestry.  These brief remarks should serve to indicate the manner in which analysis of the blood types may be utilized in anthropological studies.  Already this type of analysis has served to indicate remote and unsuspected possible relationships among human groups, and to confirm some which have been suspected on other grounds.

"The Rh blood types promise to be among the most useful genetic traits in the study of the biological relationships of human groups, but it is only in combination with the analysis of many other genetically conditioned traits, and by an analysis of each of these traits in relation to the others that these types will have their greatest value.

"R. A. Fisher originally proposed the theory of eight genes with 36 genotypes as accounting best for the Rh blood types, and he suggests that we may, in fact, be dealing with 18 genes and 171 possible genotypes.  Should this ultimately prove to be true, then we would have in the genetic analysis of the Rh blood types one of the best methods for unravelling the relationships of the ethnic groups to one another."

"While some species of monkeys possess two of the three blood group factors, there is a striking tendency for many other species to exhibit but a single blood group, generally either A or B.  This is not the case in the anthropoid apes.  Thus, the two mountain gorillas thus far tested belong to group A, the 13 lowland gorillas thus far tested to group B.  Of the 108 chimpanzees tested 96 are A and 12 are O.  Out of 24 orangs tested nine were A, 10 were B, and five AB. The 11 gibbons tested yielded two A, seven B, and two AB.

"With the exception of 10 per cent of chimpanzees group O is lacking in the apes.  It is also of very low frequency among the monkeys.  In man group O occurs in all populations in frequencies varying from 50 per cent to as high as 100 per cent of the O gene.

"On the basis of these facts it could be argued the stock from which man, in common with the great apes, was derived, possessed all four blood groups, and that different genes suffered extinction in different isolates of apes and of early man.  In such case the pattern of distribution of the blood groups in early man would have been the same or very similar to what it is among the anthropoid apes today.  From this we would have to conclude that the present distribution of the blood groups was, in man, brought about by intermixture or hybridization.  Furthermore, it could be argued that blood group O in man was originally of very low frequency, and probably limited to a few groups, being subsequently diffused through hybridization.  On the other hand it could be argued that these differences indicate that man is only remotely related to the anthropoid apes.

[Note that bloodgroup O is another important piece of the puzzle.]

"The blood of all chimpanzees thus far tested contains agglutinogens similar to but not identical with the human agglutinogens M and N.  The orang-utan, the gibbon, and the catarrhine monkeys exhibit M agglutinogens of progressively more different kinds.  An M-like agglutinogen has been found in only one species of platyrrhine monkey."

"The Rh blood type has been determined in 15 chimpanzees, in each case proving to be Rh negative. The indication gains strength that the Rh negative blood type constitutes a relatively recent mutation in man's biological history, appearing possibly in the upper paleolithic somewhere in western Europe."

"FIG. 118. Blood groups of the Basque People. (From Chalmers, Ikin, and Mourant. Courtesy, Am. j. Phys. Anthrop.}

"This suggestion has recently been rendered more than plausible by the discovery that the linguistically unique Basque people are characterized by an extraordinarily high frequency of the Rh negative gene.  In a total of 250 Basques Etcheverry (1947) found that 35.6 per cent were Rh negative.  This is more than twice the highest percentage hitherto known for any human group.  In a sample of Basques Chalmers and his co-workers (1949) found the percentage to be 29.0 per cent.  The Basques as well as populations containing a large Basque element show a high frequency of group () persons.  In this they resemble Icelanders, Scots, Irish, northern Welsh, and Sardinians.  The Basques, however, are unique among all the peoples of Europe in their very low frequency of group B.  Such facts together with their extraordinarily high Rh negative constitution suggest that the Basques are a relict population which has remained isolated from the general stream of western Euro-
pean admixture.

"It is of interest to mention here that in 1945 Boyd and Montagu by plotting the distribution of Rh gene frequencies on a small scale map, were led to conclude that the highest frequency of Rh negative was to be found in the borderland region between northern Spain and southern France.  Boyd and Montagu also concluded that it seemed probable that the Rh negative gene originated in a population in this general region.  Mourant (1947) and Etcheverry (1947) independently suggested that the Basques are the present-day representatives of a population from which the Rh negative gene in Europeans is derived."

[NOTE that I don't necessarily agree with Montagu's and other's conclusion about the origin of the Rhesus negative gene among Basques or among any ancient populations of Homo Sapiens.]

The quotes above were copied and pasted from the online Archive, an excellent source of history.  But one must remember that the texts collected on that website have mostly been scanned in electronically, so they do contain a few typographical errors in them.  I would love to get my hands on the original copy of that book.
I agree; analysis of the Romani people (like Native Americans) is crucial to solving the puzzle of Human Origins.

Potvin believes they're a hoax apparently.  I'm not sure what to believe about their authenticity; but if they're real, I'm certain they're terrestrial Hybrids, not Extraterrestrials or 'Anunnaki'.  Also keep in mind, that Potvin claims nuclear power is a "hoax".

A discussion about Australian aborigines, their alleged Rhesus negative bloodtype status, and their alleged 71% relationship to Neanderthals.  This aligns with Ashley Montagu's (aka Israel Ehrenberg's) observation concerning the Australians, about which I wasn't quite sure.  In neither case (Basques or Australian aborigines) do I conclude that the Rhesus negative gene is in any way original to Human beings.  However, like bloodgroup O, the Rhesus negative gene is a recessive trait; and in some populations they're correlative.  I think it would be very helpful at this point, to see some unbiased scientific studies comparing the blood and genetic traits of Human beings and other Primates, particularly the Apes and Monkeys.  Such studies seem very difficult to find on the internet.

Found on Rick Potvin's blog; an article about mixed DNA.  "What is a Jew?"



A little off-topic, but found on Potvin's blog.  Wilhelm Reich is yet another intelligent, honest and Humane Jew who was rejected, persecuted by his own people.  Others were Arthur Koestler, Erich Fromm, Jesus of Nazareth, John the Baptist, and many others...

Charted comparison of Neanderthal, African, and European DNA.
Full text of the study.

"East Eurasians more Neanderthal than Europeans."  -- Fits my theory perfectly.

He raises some interesting questions, which of course I could expound on, lol.

Looks like I've attracted negative attention for my ideas, lol.  That's nothing new, in light of all the negativity that's out there, especially among the narrow-minded and brainwashed.

I realize it's asking a lot for people to even consider the possibilities I present here; I didn't want to believe it, either.  I still don't like it, but it seems to be the only rational explanation for the way things are.  Furthermore, this sharing of my blog post could be the work of a (Hybrid) troll.  It's a Portuguese discussion forum, called the "Skeptics Club".  That reeks of Andrew Auernheimer and DHS.

Humans and Apes coexisted as separate species originally; then some were bred together, creating Hybrids.  Then, the Hybrids continued breeding with some other Human beings and some other Hybrids (they fornicate, rape, constantly).  Some Hybrids eventually became extinct; while others survived as their DNA became subsumed within "Anatomically Modern Human" populations.  At this point, I'm not certain whether or not any pureblooded original types of Human species exist anymore.  It's a concern for me; I really want to know.

Hybridization of Humans with Apes has completely deranged our civilizations, our societies.  Practically all of our global problems are the result of ancient Pagan bestial practices.  It's brought about the near extinction of the Human race, and the near total destruction of the entire planet Earth.  Hybrids are no longer made in the "image" of God, the Creator of Humanity.  Hybrids are made in the "image of the Beast".  The "Mark of the Beast" is in their DNA markers.

From the first chapter of Genesis:

"And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

"And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

"And God said, Let us make man [Humans] in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

"So God created man [Humans] in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat [food].

"And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good.  And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."

Exodus 22:19 -- "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."

1 Corint:hians 15:38-39 -- "But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.  All flesh is not the same flesh:  but there is one kind of flesh of men [Humans], another of beasts [animals, not Human], another of fishes, and another of birds.

1 Corinthians 15:49 -- "And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly."

2 Corinthians 3:17-18  "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

"But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass [mirror] the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord."

The "Beast" of Revelation is a symbol, a metaphor for the sub-Human Hybrids existing among us. "666" is metaphorical for DNA.  The "Mark of the Beast" is found in Hybrids' DNA; in their DNA markers. The anti-Christ is the mind and character of the "Beast".  The Serpent (also known as the Dragon), worshipped and enslaved by Hybrids, is Satan: the liar, deceiver, and sexual deviant.  "For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:"

"And the dragon [serpent] was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed..."

"...which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

"I... saw a beast rise up out of the sea ...and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

"And they worshipped the dragon [serpent] which gave power unto the beast..."

"...and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"

"And it was given unto him [the Beast] to make war with the saints, and to overcome them..."

"...and power was given him [the Beast] over all kindreds [tribes], and tongues [languages], and nations."
"And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him [the Beast], whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb [Jesus Christ] slain from the foundation of the world."
"If any man have an ear, let him hear."
Note: the Beast, ie organized Hybrids, intend to ruin communications however they can, to prevent Mankind from obtaining truth.
"If any man have an ear, let him hear [God promises]:   He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity...
"...he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.  Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."
"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon [evil, lies]... And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him...
"..and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed."
"And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men [Mankind]...
"And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast...
"...saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast...
"...which had the wound by a sword, and did live."
"And he [the second Beast] had power to give life unto the image of the [first] beast, that the image of the beast should both speak...
"...and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed."
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond...
"...to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads...
"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the markor the name of the beast, or the number of his name."
"Here is wisdom.  Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast...
"...for it is the number of a man; and his [the Beast's] number is Six hundred threescore and six..."
"And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Zion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand...
"...having his Father's name written in their foreheads."
"...And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts [note that these "four beasts" are different from the evil one spoken of separately in Revelation; I gather that these four are not evil -- not all "beasts" are evil, only Human Hybrids], and the elders...
"...and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth."
"...These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth...
"...These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb."
"And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth...
"...and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people...
"Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come...
"...and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters."
"And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city...
"...because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication...
"And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice...
"If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand...
"The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation...
"...and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb...

"And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night...

"...who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name...

"...Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."

"...And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous...

"...seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God...

"And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire...

"...and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his [the Beast's] image, and over his [the Beast's] mark, and over the number of his name...

"...stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God...

"...And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying...

"...Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints...

"...Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy...

"...for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest...

"...And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened...

"...And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues...

"...and no man [Human] was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled."

So in my opinion, the World is corrupt and chaotic because some of our ancestors disobeyed God by producing Hybrid races via bestiality.  In that way, creating humanoid monsters, thereby triggering innumerable genetic mutations, they introduced evil into the World.  Genesis says Mankind was created by God [heavenly father] in his own image.  But Hybrids are made at least partly in the image [ie DNA] of beasts.  Once corrupted, Human DNA can never be the same as before.  As a mule is the hybrid product of a horse mare and donkey stallion, it's neither horse nor donkey... it's a completely different creature.  Likewise, a person's DNA markers reveal whether or not they carry the "Mark of the Beast".

"...count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man [Human]... 666" -- The mark of the beast is a number, and it is a mark"

I think that has to mean DNA; and that "the Beast" symbolizes something very real, not just some figure of speech:  it's symbolic of Human / Ape Hybrids.  That's why I believe, and Science has proven before (although it's now being covered up), that Neanderthals, Denisovans, and other hominid, Human sub-species did not predate original Human beings (Homo Sapiens) chronologically.  We didn't "evolve" from them; rather, we (some or most, I'm not sure which yet) descended from some of them, so although they're ancestral to an unknown percentage of the "Anatomically Modern Human" population, they were in fact preceded by the original Humans.  Original Humans --> Human / Ape Hybrids --> "Anatomically Modern Humans".  Humans came first before those monstrous creatures.  The Government wants us to believe a lie:  ie that Neanderthals, etc., were ancestral to all Humanity.  They want us to believe that those Hybrid monsters were natural, instead of the truth:  they were instead man-made, via bestial practices.  Because, so many in Government carry those Hybrid genes in their DNA... they bear the Mark of the Beast in their bodies' cells.

"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of [Hu]man, and with the seed of beast."  JEREMIAH 31:27

(see also, verses 28-37, where the scriptures clearly indicate a very close and special relationship -- or "covenent" -- between God and Israel alone, aside from Judah).

The Illuminati are aware of the truth about themselves (because they in fact maintain their memories, history and culture through the heavy and strict utilization of ceremony, symbolism, and ritual); and they're proactively, diligently working through the media, public compulsory education, and other avenues of propaganda, to spin the facts, distort the truth, and to "normalize" what ought to be a shockingly overwhelming reality.  In other words, they're brainwashing the Public, Human and Hybrid alike, to accept the fact that we're not "all Human beings", after all.  At the same time, they're avidly presenting Neanderthals, Denisovans, and other hominid Hybrids as "Humans" of diverse 'flavors'.  And that's why it seems to many of us lately, that we now inhabit a surreal sort of Twilight Zone episode.

Like the Serpent, "more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made" -- they're lying to us.  And because so many of us find the lies more palatable than the truth, we're easily deceived. In that way, we "love" the lies.  However, long ago I realized that although the lies and delusions might sound sweeter emotionally, they're in fact very destructive to the mind, body, and soul.  That's when I firmly resolved to seek out truth and reality, regardless of the consequences.

Truth and reality can be a lot harder to handle, overwhelming at times, which I suppose is why some people claim that it "hurts".  But it doesn't hurt as much as lies and delusions do.  Instead it sets us free, if we can just be honest and rational enough to handle it... and I love Freedom, too.

Another important point to keep in mind is the relationship between the Pagan practices of Serpent / Phallus Religions or Worship with lies, sexual deviance, Eugenics, Genocide, and so on.

I've been censured, punished, even persecuted many times, for speaking the truth.

A documentary on the subject of psychopathy.

They invent their personas; ie, they're not authentic.  They're actors, performers.  They pretend to be whatever they believe you would like for them to be.  They have no remorse or guilt, none whatsoever.  They often intentionally seek to evoke pity from Human beings, by playing on your Human feelings.  They are deceptive about their histories.  High levels of testosterone in both, male and female psychopaths.

I believe it is genetic; I believe they're Hybrids.

They have to invent their personas, because they possess no real Human feelings or thoughts of their own.  Here in this video, they're described as "intra-species predators".  They are indeed predators; but, they're not really the same exact species as true Human beings.

No remorse or guilt, because they possess no Human feelings.  They operate entirely on animal instinct.  Interacting with Hybrids is a lot like encountering Chimpanzees or Gorillas, Monkeys.  They're opportunistic survivalists.  They attack Humans, because we're not like them (more intelligent, more moral, even more physically attractive); they fear us for that reason.  Another important reason they attack, is for physical or material gain.  I call them "bottomless pits" because they are so high maintenance, so intellectually impoverished, so lacking in really practical life skills, so wasteful of resources, and so emotionally destitute.

The author estimates only 4%  (1/25) of the general population is psychopathic; but I think it's more like 1/4 (25%).

Human beings are nothing more than objects, servants, slaves or toys, to them.  They have no regard for a person's Humanity, Divine or Civil Rights, feelings, thoughts, beliefs, ideas, personality, etc.  They habitually idealize others, expecting others to be perfect for them, to meet all of their own (psychopath's) needs.  In the deluded, twisted, subHuman minds of psychopaths, people merely exist to serve them or to provide them with entertainment or material resources.  If their victims don't meet all the psychopath's needs, the psychopath begins to devalue the victim.  They always project their own faults, hatred, etc., onto their victims.

Through manipulative behaviors such as social or physical isolation (often achieved by means of smear campaigns, slander, bullying, stalking, or by economic or physical abuses) and 'gaslighting' (attempts to undermine confidence and esteem by making victims both, feel and appear, "crazy" or inept, incompetent)... they always seek to gain complete control over their victims.  Destroying people sadistically gives them a thrill, an adrenalin rush; and they are always bored, always seeking excitement, entertainment.  Like Apes or Monkeys, they don't have much intelligence to keep them preoccupied, so they always look outward for mental and physical stimulation, satisfaction.

The present civilization, society and economy are a perfect environment for psychopaths, because they were created by psychopathic leaders.

They lie constantly; pathological liars.  Unoriginal; they are mimics, mimes, imitators:  "Monkey see, monkey do".  And they are quite addicted to Fantasy, Glamour, Illusion, Drama... Like all gangsters (and many kinds of animals), they usually operate (ie hunt for prey) cooperatively in packs, teams, groups or "hives" -- although they have no problem also acting alone at times, with the knowledge that their "friends" will help them cover up their crimes.

Testosterone.  That supports my belief that psychopathy (and Patriarchy as well) is a Hybrid, physiological, genetic trait or condition.  Female confinement rituals, male superiority, "Alpha" male worship, primogeniture, polygamy, harems, eunuchs (castration), slavery, circumcision, monarchy, homosexuality, prostitution and pimping -- all are psychopathic and Patriarchal behaviors.

Someone claiming to be in law enforcement waking up to the fact that there is something very inhuman about our Government, military these days.  Reporting teams of "assassins" being formed; and questioning the DNA, genetics of at least some of the younger recruits.


Dune... Fear is the Mindkiller...""Not all specimens of Homo sapiens are Humans, Frank Herbert understood."

I learned about Dune from Andrew Auernheimer.  I wasn't aware how much of a cult classic it is, among certain individuals and groups.  The Troll was very into it.


Comment I made to Dienekes' about the above video:  "They're exposing how applications of mathematical / computer statistics may sometimes be severely flawed science; and how it might be distorted in order to support certain preconceived ideologies.  (ie Garbage in, garbage out.)  Intuitively I knew that, but it's good to hear someone actually seriously challenging it with clear explanations, examples.  The origins of Indo-Europeans is too important a topic to ignore, exagerate, romanticize, idealize or treat lightly."


Propaganda, lauded by another propagandist, Ashley Montagu (see discussion about Montagu in my Freemasonry: Our State Religion post.

UPDATE: My comment was published, along with several others.


Another academic lecture on the same subject.

I like this blogger, whoever it is... marvelously sharp and well-spoken intellectual.

A blogger who connects C. G. Jung with Yoga.  Hmm, not very surprising, really.

More propaganda.

I think this is interesting, because since Man is a Mammal, there should be certain parallels between us and the Beasts of the world, geographically (but also chronologically and other aspects, of course).

Lots of Human genome data.

Using Rhesus Macaques as stand-ins for Humans, how appropriate (if you're a Hybrid).


My comment concerning Human Hybridization with Apes got published here, finally broke through to them!

"George" says, [Uralic speaking... and Moksha] "Erzya->Mordva->Mordhvar->Androphagi
Androphagi in Herodotus times originated to the west of the Northern part of the river Don."

Referencing androphagi in association with the R1a1a (yDNA) tribes, something which I have no trouble believing.


They're still puzzling over it, because they're not willing to entertain the thought of alternate theories to their interpretation of Darwin.

There are entire races of so-called "modern" Humans, whose foreheads do not bulge at all; quite the contrary, they are very slanted inward.

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Jeremiah 31:27 ~ "Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.

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Certainly not pigs; but technically Ape Hybrids are a possibility.  Of course, this doesn't exclude the fact that Arabic peoples are also probably Hybrids of some types.


Another serious blogger who explores the subject of Human Origins, "Marnie".

I commented on this one, so we'll see if Dienekes' publishes it.  (He published it right away, yippee!)  I want people to at least be open-minded about the possibility, and if they can conclusively prove to me that I'm wrong about it, that's fine with me.  But, something has to explain the fact that Human beings have DE-volved, rather than improved or E-volved.


Australian mtDNA and its implications regarding Human Origins Theory.

This clarifies the rumors surrounding the Cherokee turban fad.
Search results for "mtDNA X".




I've been saying for quite some time, that their presuppositions are errant.


Reverse side of the same disk is also covered with elaborate diagrams.

Beginning at 47:37 the Embryological / Genetical Disk from Colombia is explained.  Immediately following that explanation, he shows the audience a knife and another medical instrument called a 'spoon', both used specifically for childbirth.  The knife was used to cut umbilical cords; the 'spoon' was used in transverse or breech presentations, to help remove infants from mothers' wombs.  I'm sure that might also be helpful in cases of large or oddly shaped infant craniums.  All three items are finely crafted from the mineral, Ludite[?].  The narrator points out the strange configuration of the faces / heads of some of the creatures shown on the Disk.  No one can understand why they look so different from normal Humans, but I believe I know the answer:  they are actually subHuman, Lower Primates (such as Monkeys or Apes).  I believe this stone is evidence of ancient experiments in Human / Ape Hybridization, and that it was created as a sort of textbook reference for their priests, doctors, etc.

The Illuminati are also very interested in the subject of breeding, eugenics, of course.


Evidence of ancient Agricultural societies, other than the Cherokee, in North America.  Too many people falsely believe and perpetuate the notion that all Native Americans were nomadic Hunter-gatherers like the Plains Indians.

Science does not support the Aryan Invasion of India theory.

Just in today; this figure is quite identical to the weird looking ones on the Disk above -- the ones I compare to Monkeys or Apes.

I commented on this one, since they were engaged in a lively debated over the Aryan Invasion Theory.  Don't know yet, whether my opinion was published. [It was.]





Flavius Josephus speaks of an extinct race of Giants in Book V, Chapter 2 of his Antiquities of the Jews.

Other sources describe those Giants as having existed Post-Flood or Post-Diluvian.  That's what I believe; that they were actually bred by Human Hybridization with Apes, etc. -- after the Flood, in other words, after the Ice Age melted off and the Earth began to warm back up.  I'm sure that Toba and other supervolcanic eruptions are what caused at least one Ice Age (the most recent one, maybe).  It seems that North America also suffered a big Meteor strike (or maybe it was some other supervolcano, now extinct, who knows?).  Perhaps the North American Event occured around the same time as the Toba event, who knows?

On the other hand... those Giants might instead have actually been the last lingering remnant populations of true, original Human beings!  I have yet to figure that one out.  Perhaps after the Flood, and after Humans had bred with particular Lower Apes and Monkeys, the Hybrids then waged genocide on the Giants (hypothetically, the true Human beings)?!  That seems altogether plausible to me.  There are similar legends among contemporary "Native Americans".

"Figure 41: The Missippian culture centered around *agriculture* and earthen monuments."
Mississippian Dog Effigy in pottery.
Believed to have existed mainly in the time period between 800 CE and 1500 CE... But who knows for how long or for how many 'extinct' civilizations Agriculture was the dietary cornerstone of North America?




Bhagavad Gita -- As It Is

Srimad Bhagavad Gita; not sure what the difference is from the above linked text.  Both have eighteen chapters, so maybe just varying translations or interpretations of the scriptures.

Holy Cow!! You can listen to the text sung in the original Sanskrit here!

"And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."  Genesis 6:1-2


All in Russian; will need help translating.

Of most interest to me, is the date of Indo-Europeans







A gigantic ape standing 10 feet tall and weighing up to 1,200 pounds lived alongside humans for over a million years, researchers say. A fresh analysis of two previously found skulls determined they re 200,000 old, making them the oldest known examples of our species. Yet fossil records indicate musical instruments, drawings, needles and other sophisticated tools didn t appear until about 50,000 years ago, suggesting Homo sapiens had a pretty lowbrow culture for 150,000 years. Well, evolution takes time. Another team found the fossilized remains of what they think is humankind s first walking ancestor, from 4 million years ago. Other research confirmed that the oldest human ancestor, from the time when we split with the apes, lived around 6 million years ago. Oh, and you have to respect our relatively recent ancestors (the lowbrow folks) who we now know lived among 10-foot-tall gorillas that have since gone extinct. Maybe they were so busy running they had no time to paint or create alphabets.
(McMaster University)

Another point of interest, is that Human beings are rumored (I say rumored, because it's being covered up by the scientific and governmental communities) -- to have been a far taller stature in ancient times, compared to the present day.















I rounded up what I could, on Jim Vieira; not sure if some of it is repetitive.




(Blogger is a "literary gadfly", who discovers antiquarian and rare books in flea markets, etc.)



Another great blog.

Reports of the Bureau of Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, complete with numerous descriptions of GIANT SKELETONS... So, why have they since gone into complete denial about them?  What are they hiding?

This study revolutionizes the usual, standard beliefs concerning the origins of dogs.  Up to now, most people believed dogs originated in the Levant / Africa and Eastern Asian regions.  Since extinct forms of other mammals such as Camels, Tigers, Elephants (ie Mammoths), even Horses, etc., have been found in the Americas, it stands to reason that Dogs were also here.



 Falklands Island Wolf, now extinct.

Giant North American Camels, now extinct.


Ancient Dog skull analysis.

Linguistic analysis of the Aryan Invasion Theory.
Indology.

Greater divergence between the Neanderthal and Denisovan genomes, than between any Modern Human groups.  That sounds very meaningful to me, in light of the fact that particular types of Modern Human individuals carry DNA from either one, or both, hybrid subspecies.  Of course, I'm not really sure how to interpret that particular information, at least not yet.


Scores of reports of Giant skeletons found all over North America have been the subject of intense cover-ups, because that fact does not support the supposed "Theory of Evolution."  So much for 'science'.


Obviously, I disagree with the Knights Hospitaller Templars (who incidentally admit to their Neanderthal origins).


http://archive.org/stream/jstor-2453948/2453948#page/n5/mode/2up

"Finally, among primates, human [blood] serum dissolves the corpuscles of fishes, frog, snakes, pigeon, fowl, night-heron, horse, swine, ox, rabbit, guinea-pig, dog, cat, hedgehog, and lemur.  The effect of human [blood] serum was tried upon the blood of six species of apes (the platyrhines, Pithesciurus sciurcus, Atoles ater; the catarrhines, Cynocephalus babuin, Macacus sinicus, Macacus cynomolgus, and Rhesus nemestriuus, at the Berlin Zoological Garden).  In all cases the Human [blood] serum dissolved the ape corpuscles.  The serum of Macacus had no effect upon the blood of some persons [ie some humans], while the blood of others was quickly dissolved by it.
Among the true anthropoid apes is first found blood which is physiologically equivalent to that of man... It is well known that the horse and ass, dog and wolf, rabbit and hare readily cross [ie breed offspring].  It would be a valuable experiment to attempt by means of artificial fertilization, a cross between the rat and mouse, or between the domestic cat and the ocelot [or, between Humans and Apes??? -- I'm already on record stating that it has already been done, in ancient history].  The physiological similarity of the blood of either pair of animals points toward the possibility of a successful crossing.

 http://archive.org/stream/TheStudyOfRacesAndPresent-dayAnthropology#page/n0/mode/2up

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  1. I think [b]Homo sapiens[/b] is the product of genetic engineering performed by some advanced extraterrestrial civilization. Of course, they used DNA from our primate cousins, as well as their own. Hence the famous statement in Genesis (1:27): "And the Gods (in plural: Hebrew [b]elohim[/b]) made man to their image".

    If they did so once, nothing would have prevented them from creating other hybrid species.

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  2. Thank you for your interesting opinion. All serious comments are appreciated, whether or not I agree with them. In this case, I must say that I personally don't believe in extra-terrestrial visitations to Earth (despite the fact that about 36 yrs ago I and other witnesses had a very close and frightening encounter with a real UFO, lol), so I would also disagree with your theory that Humans (Homo Sapiens) were engineered in that particular manner. However, intentional hybrid breeding is a form of biological engineering which does also involve DNA; and it's my opinion that the engineers of "Anatomically Modern Humans" --- were themselves intelligent (although wicked and/or foolish) Human beings. Hence the biblical scripture: "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 22:19).

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  3. Revelation 17:8 "The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."

    Revelation 19:20 "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone."

    In my opinion, the "mark" of the "beast" refers to DNA markers.

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  4. Revelation 12:17 "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

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  6. I have found a interesting source of information. The text claims an off-world origin, that was written by members of a group of beings that oversaw the life implantation and evolution of our planet. I have been looking for proof of the claims in the text. The problem of the more intelligent human stocks interbreeding with their animal Cousins is mentioned. The Aboriginal race of humans evolved first followed by six different colored races all of wide skull types. All seven of these different fully human races mixed and fought and sometimes mated with their more animalistic ancestors or closely related animal strains. Two other races that are of the long skull types the Nodites (descendants of Nod) and the Adamites (descendants of Adam) were not indigenous to the earth. These two races possessed higher knowledge and missions from the universe government. The genetic disk is proof of higher knowledge pre-dating historic times. I argue that this Urantia Book is worth reading and considering. The Urantia book is for truth seekers. The text describes the evolution of humanity from frogs in a more rapidly mutating theory of evolution. The missing links will never be found because they never existed. Urantia offers a interesting scientific account of the whole history of the universe and our world Urantia. Make the bible look like a childs book; which it is the accounts of the primitive people of the past.

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    1. Glade, you sound like someone who sincerely seeks truth. You've explored some theoretical avenues upon which I too have travelled. I appreciate your comments, as I can see that you are serious about finding answers. So I'll not hesitate to respond with my own opinions on the topic.

      I've checked out the Urantia book myself, but came to the conclusion that like every other text book, it contains some facts along with many fallacies. In fact no text, not even the Bible (my own primary source of wisdom / spiritually relevant knowledge), can be entirely infallible. That's because no text was ever written by the hand of God; all are written, transcribed, and printed by people. And to err is Human, of course. Anyone claiming that the Bible, a book written by men, is the infallible word of God, is either lying or mistaken. Because the Bible itself tells us that Jesus Christ is Word of God. In the beginning, the Word was given to the wise elders through the Holy Spirit, and they passed it along to their students (generally, younger members of the family) orally. It only got written down later, after written language was developed. There was no need to write it down in those most ancient times, because Human beings then were extremely intelligent (and especially wise), Spirit-filled (righteous), healthy and long-lived, and possessed of exceptionally brilliant memories. They were not the dullards which make up the present Human / Hybrid population existing in its dreadfully fallen state.

      And I used to dumbly accept the theory that interstellar space travel would be possible, even keeping a lookout for aliens and ufos. But, although I've had experiences similar to those of others who interpret them as evidence of alien visitation here, I no longer believe that can be the case. So what I experienced must have been something else entirely.

      It is impossible that alien creatures, however similar to us yet more intelligent and advanced than we are, could travel from their solar system to visit ours. Because as Maurice Cotterell explains so eloquently, every star, every Sun, possesses its very own unique spectral signature. No two stars are alike. Each one has it's own spectrum of light, electrical emissions, radiation, magnetism, chemistry, mass, and gravitational characteristics, which all together form a unique signature for itself alone, not shared by any other star in the universe. What that means is that we along with all life here is adapted and adaptable only to our own Sun. Thus, if we were even able technologically to physically travel to another planet in any other solar system, we would die long before we ever had any chance of tinkering with the landscape or with the fauna there. Our very DNA is in resonance with our own Sun; so we cannot survive outside the environment of our own solar system, preferably staying on our dearly small and tragically much abused, underappreciated and grossly taken for granted planet, Earth. Our DNA cannot synchronize with the environment of any stars other than our own. It would be disharmonious, so to speak. So, truly there is "no place like home".

      http://www.mauricecotterell.com/01mayanpropheciesrvw.htm

      [To be continued...]

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    2. "Two other races that are of the long skull types the Nodites (descendants of Nod) and the Adamites (descendants of Adam) were not indigenous to the earth. These two races possessed higher knowledge and missions from the universe government."

      I consider this a fallacy. To begin with, and keeping in mind my belief that interstellar travel is impossible, the elders have told us that the Nodites were the Nephilim, or Fallen Ones. Despite all of the confusion and delusion surrounding them, I discovered through diligent research and study that they were not really "gods", but merely the subjects of the idolatry of ignorant and superstitious pagans. All the tribes of the Nephilim, including that of the Nodites, were nothing more than the mulish hybrid offspring of Human females who were probably fertilized in vitro with the semen of various species of apes and monkeys (particularly the Rhesus macaque). At first, although foolish, their intention was well-meant: they were trying to save the Human species from extinction due to some globally catastrophic environmental cataclysms. But even if handled delicately without any physical contact with the animals, the sperm of those beasts alone was enough to wreak havoc on our immune systems. It brought a lot of suffering, death, disease... And the offspring which did survive were not Human enough to be anything other than monsters. (Like if you compare a mule to a horse, no mule can come close to possessing the beauty and intelligence of a horse; yet no mule is ever born that did not develop within the womb of a horse.)

      The Nodites were Hybrids bred not with angels or ETs, but rather with low beasts, animals. However, the ancient Humans were in a panic because they feared that Humanity would cease to exist due to mass extinction. So they treasured the monstrous hybrid offspring that they had created in acts of perhaps the earliest form of animal husbandry. But along with disease and ugliness, and all sorts of unexpected physical traits, they brought mental illness, insanity, and yes -- evil -- into the Human bloodlines. So that in their dread of death (brought face to face with it via the cataclysms), and also in their warped sense of pride in seeming to be able to overcome extinction with their bestial breeding practices, along with their inbred mental derangement (one symptom of mental illness is the complete lack of awareness that one is not normal or healthy) -- they became attached to their hybrid offspring in unwholesome fashion. They began to worship them, idolize them as if they were gods. They found them most attractive sexually, and overcame any shame they might have had in order to marry them and procreate more so with them. In that manner, Human kept back-breeding with the hybrids, to the point where the offspring began to look at least a little less freakish, a little more Human. But once done, the genetic damage was irreparable.

      One characteristic of hybridization, is that the results can be extremely unpredictable. And many of the traits affected might be mentally or emotionally damaging more so than it is physically. In order to get a mule, you breed a mare horse with a male donkey. Then the mule itself is sterile if bred with other mules. However, you could theoretically breed a male mule with another mare horse, and you would get... something. But farmers don't do that, because they want offspring which is more predictable; so they only breed mare horses and donkeys (to produce mules), not mares with mules.

      But Humans did what farmers know not to do: they back-bred with the hybrid offspring of the F1 / first generation crosses between the *original* pure species. That is why there are presently so many "Human" tribes, so many different languages, races, colors, blood types, etc. I would surmise that nearly every person alive today possesses some kind or combinations of hybrid DNA.

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    3. The Nephilim were not the Giants... the Giants in fact were the original Human species prior to their corruption via bestial practices. The Bible has been deliberately misinterpreted by people who would like for us to believe that the Human species is the one of which to rid the Earth, to exterminate. We are living in a nightmarishly real version of the movie, "Planet of the Apes". That is just one of their jokes played upon Humanity. The so-called Illuminati know all about it, and they have historically worked diligently to maintain and protect their biggest secret -- that they are hybrids. Taking advantage of the loving, trusting nature of people who still possess Human minds and emotions, though not necessarily fully Human bodies, in order to perpetuate their control and power over us, they have enslaved us one way or another, whether physically or through deception ("my people perish for want of knowledge"); and it has unfortunately been that way for many ages.

      However, it is too late in the play to be easily able to distinguish Humans from the Fallen Ones based solely on some physical factor such as height. At this time, the easiest way to distinguish between the original species and the various subspecies is to evaluate their intelligence and morals. But of course, one can't judge fairly if one doesn't possess Human intelligence and morals for oneself. The Hybrids / Nephilim / Fallen Ones / Beasts -- are mentally the very definition of "psychopath". They are Serpents, figuratively; and it just so happens that their religion is the Serpent or Luciferian pagan religions. Yes, they are legion. They have fooled the very elect; even infiltrating every State established church, synagogue, mosque, temple, and every mainstream form of religion available to mankind, in order to deceive. In order to own us, to do with us whatever is convenient for them.

      So, the Nodites are not ETs, and never were. They were and are the hybrid product of bestiality. However unfortunately, the faction of the population with the most power and control has been feeding us all a pack of lies of ages. That is why they have Secret Societies -- because they do not want the truth to be told; and they spend all of their spare energy conjuring and hiding their wickedness. They utilize secrecy as a means to create an alternate, false "reality" for people to believe in. They hide their evil deeds because they'd be put away if everyone knew about them. In public, they wear masks of normalcy, decency, of Humanity, but in private, their horns come out and the bacchanalias begin. But it's all an act, and people like myself can see right through the façade, the false image. In the movie, Planet of the Apes, the Nodites / Nephilim are represented by the Ape Hybrids. In King Kong, they are represented by the gorilla. They are in truth, the Beast of Revelation. Many of their ancestors were Neanderthals.

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/King_kong_1976_movie_poster.jpg
      http://politicalstrife.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/planet-of-the-apes-1968.jpg

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    4. On the other hand, I believe the Adamites must in fact be the true Human species = Giants. Even the word "Adam" means 'of the Earth, red clay'. We are all descendants of Adam to one degree or another, but some have inherited the worst and most damaging of the Hybrid / Nodite / Nephilim genes: those which affect the mind and emotions, thereby robbing psychopaths of any Human soul. One is not truly Human without a Human mind, Human emotions, and a Human soul. Those things are what truly define a real Human being.

      However, as the Bible points out in Revelation, the *mark* (or marker, genetic marker) of the Beast (hybrid, beast, subhuman, subspecies) is a *number* (perhaps 666, if the Bible was interpreted and translated correctly; otherwise perhaps a slightly different *number*). That suggests that there is a scientifically valid test that would genetically define / quantify true Human beings (who do not have the minds of psychopaths or monsters) as compared with any sub-Human or Hybrid. But unfortunately, it is going to be extremely difficult to get truth from our power elites, whose main concern is to maintain control and to protect their interests. They're greedy. Hybrids are by their very nature psychopaths, and psychopaths by their very nature seek to dominate and to exert absolute power and control.

      There is a war going on between the Nodites (Hybrids) and the Adamites (true Human species). At this time, it seems that the bad guys outnumber us (the "remnants" of scripture); it seems that they're winning. If they do manage to completely annihilate the original Human species genetically, there is no way to repair the damage done. And lives of lower and lower levels of intelligence, baser and baser morals, despite the claims of those who promote such an existences, is NOT worth living. They're turning the planet into a cesspool. They actually have transformed Paradise / Garden of Eden into Hell. Hell = Death.

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    5. "The genetic disk is proof of higher knowledge pre-dating historic times."

      Yes, higher knowledge (and higher IQs) certainly existed in prehistory, along with vastly longer lives. The original Human species, prior to bestial hybridizations, were so intelligent, that according to the wise Zulu shaman, Credo Mutwa, they not only had no need for any written language, but no need even to vocalize their thoughts. Because, they were able to psychically / telepathically read one another's minds very easily, even at vast distances. The earliest languages that eventually did appear were pictographic, such as seen on that amazing stone disk and on other ancient stone artifacts (ie Egypt). Then they began using clay tablets and cuneiform types of script; later inventing alphabets to write on papyrus and parchments... and so forth. Back when we were yet *one* integrated species, the Human species, we needed only *one* language... but bestial hybridization has fractured us into many thousands of disparate pieces of a huge puzzle formed of tribes, races, religions, languages, and even dialects of languages.

      That genetic disk must have been one of their earliest attempts to retain important knowledge, and it significantly was discovered on an American continent. Although the pictographic language would seem "primitive" to our way of thinking, based on our preconceived notions of history, evolution, and progress -- incongruously, the workmanship on it is incredibly sophisticated. So much so, that no one is able to reproduce it. That alone tells us that the whole truth of Human origins is far stranger than anything we ever could imagine. Nevertheless, what is most significant of all, is that the disk is so obviously a manual for the successful breeding of Hybrids. They wanted to preserve the Human species any way possible, deeply fearing extinction; even if it meant sacrificing important parts of our original genome. And besides the bestial breeding practices, they also took up such superstitious abominations as Human sacrifice, Blood rites, Sun and Phallus worship. In short, they went mad; they lost their minds along with their souls. They became evil.

      As time passes, the more Humanity, the Adamites, continues to back-breed with the Fallen Ones, the Nephilim or Nodites -- the more our DNA is corrupted, affecting our minds, our morals, our looks, our integrity as a pure species. You don't breed mules and expect them to be as beautiful, as loyal, and as intelligent and fun to be with as horses. A world with all mules and no horses, would be worthless. Only a Hybrid would disagree.

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    6. "The missing links will never be found because they never existed."

      So it follows that the Human population has degenerated, devolved rather than evolved. It is more primitive overall now than it was in the Beginning. None of our technology, not even agriculture, etc., which we haven't even had for very long, can substitute for the intelligence and the morals which we have lost along with our DNA.

      Nor can anything substitute for the shortening of our lives, our ruined physical health, multiple birth defects, and weakened immunity. In the Beginning, Human beings didn't even need to wear clothing or build houses for protection against environmental elements, because we were so perfectly adapted to our planet, the one which sheltered and fed us quite generously. In their attempt to cheat feared death by extinction, and in their utter lack of faith in the goodness and mercy of God -- they sold out their Human souls and the future of Mankind, just for the opportunity to simply exist like parasites, like worms. Forever enslaved. There is not a truly free individual anywhere on the face of the Earth anymore; every one is a slave to one degree or another. It would have been better if they had accepted their fate (extinction, if it was God's will) than to linger on in such a deplorable fallen condition.

      By the way, Darwin never had any Theory of Evolution... that is something that the powers-that-be simply dreamed up on their own. None of Darwin's books go by such a title. His books are rather titled "The Origin of the Species" and "The *Descent* of Man[kind]". Had Darwin not allowed himself to be so biased due to social pressures and the egotistic need to be politically correct, he would have been perhaps one of the finest scientists that ever lived. But, to err is human...

      Yet it's one thing to simply err, and quite another to deliberately deceive.

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    7. "Urantia offers a interesting scientific account of the whole history of the universe and our world Urantia."

      I see it as pseudo-scientific. As you admitted yourself that "I have been looking for proof of the claims in the text." -- that means it doesn't present the proofs or enough evidence to back its claims, within the same text. Instead, it asks the reader to accept it mostly on faith.

      "Make the bible look like a childs book; which it is the accounts of the primitive people of the past."

      "Urantia" doesn't succeed in negating the most important texts of the Christian bible for me, and I haven't yet found anything able to do so. Only some parts of the bible (perhaps the only parts that you have actually read) are "accounts of the primitive people of the past (ie no more than about 6000 years ago, which is not a very long time)"; and the truth is that even the bible itself reveals how much healthier and longer-lived people were prior to the Fall of Mankind. All of the accounts of 'primitive' (ie evil, beastly, barbarous) people you speak of written in the bible, are accounts of people who existed after the Fall, after the corruption of Human DNA.

      Adam and Eve, who represent the Human species prior to the Fall, were not at all primitive, unless you think going naked, when clothes are unnecessary, "primitive"... or you think that living in a beautiful pristine environment without any industrial pollution, wherein agriculture and technology are both also unnecessary, "primitive"... or you think it "primitive" not having the population fractured into different strange tribes with diverse languages, religions, traditions (along with their own peculiar, characteristic diseases); and not having books and printing presses and scribes (because none of those things were necessary for them, since they were so intelligent and morally upright that they could get along just fine without them)?

      In fact, it is plain to see that the majority people have become even more primitive now than they were in the Beginning; reminiscent of Rama's monkey armies dressed in military uniforms, or some in designer clothing, playing with expensive and dangerous toys. "Watch this!", "Look what I can do!", "Let's go partay!"... It must be obvious to at least a few people that if you look at the whole picture, beyond the illusions, delusions of grandeur -- the world is a disaster, it's a mess. Fukushima... must I go on? I could go on of course, but that ought to be enough.

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    8. Shenandoah, you seem to share in my passion for the unexplained as well as dislike for the current state of world governments and politics. I am interested in your point of view; however I disagree on a few points. I do wish to debate a few of the concepts presented in your reply.
      Interstellar Space Travel
      I agree that interstellar space travel is indeed impossible for humans and other physical creatures. Biologically physical creatures are directly related to the stars and planets of their origin. Humans cannot survive in deep space away from the earths loving embrace. Alien creatures on the other hand may possess technology unimaginable to humans. The answers lie in creation. I do not believe the big bang theory. Planets and stars are not formed from random explosions. The planets and stars of observable universe were constructed and intelligently designed. The creative thought always precedes the creative action. The technology used to construct the vast universe suggests intelligence far beyond human capabilities. So far advanced that I believe that these beings are pure energy of a type humans haven’t even discovered yet. Immune to gravity, able to travel many time the speed of light, possessing the ability to convert energy into matter. These Beings use supermassive black holes like the one at the center of our own Milky Way galaxy to hold their creations in place. Total control over gravity, matter and energy these beings are “Gods” to the mortal creatures of the universe.
      The Hebrew Bible contains many examples of these beings interacting with humans. The Nephilim , Angles, Nodites, Adam and Eve, Machiventa Melchizedek, and Jesus were all from the higher orders of the universe. The Greek’s, Sumerian’s, Babylonian’s, Celt’s, Nazca and Mayan’s are just a few examples of human cultures that seemed to know about the “Gods” and that they do indeed visit the earth. I believe they have been coming to our planet all along. They are immoral and over controlled the evolution of life on this planet. The beings that constructed and manage our world are definitely capable of interstellar travel.

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    9. Since we agree that interstellar space travel is impossible for any physical creature, it should be easy enough for you to understand that spiritual beings cannot produce offspring by having sexual intercourse with physical beings. That's how I can say for certain that the Hybrids were created by crossing Human beings with animals, beasts.

      Creation: God created everything, and He didn't need "technology" to do so... He said the word, and it was so. God said, "Let there be light", and it was so... very easy for God. He created Human beings in His OWN [SPIRITUAL] IMAGE, in other words the Original Humans shared God's morals. That's how you can distinguish between people with Human minds and those with Hybrid (bestial) minds -- Humans have Godly morals, Hybrids do not and are in fact evil.

      God also created the angels, some of which Fell away, separating from Grace (chose to become evil and to fight against God / Righteousness) but the majority of which continue to serve God, because they actually are OF God. However, the angels (whether holy or evil ones) are not in any way spiritually superior to true Human beings who are also of God (not of the Beast, or of Satan). True Human beings have the power to command angels. True Human beings do not worship or fear any angels... we worship and 'fear' (give utmost respect to) only God. Even Jesus, God's Right Hand (so to speak), His spiritual son, and the most powerful entity in the universe besides the Holy Spirit / Creator... teaches us to command the Holy angels (which in fact serve us Humans as they serve God; because we are God's spiritual children and they respect that); and to cast out or banish demons at our command; and to serve, worship, and 'fear' (give utmost respect to) only God Almighty (our Father, the Holy Spirit / Creator).

      Humans do not fear or worship idols or gods; we do not worship demons or anything (not even Jesus) other than GOD. Only Hybrids make idols of those evil spirits and corrupt beasts. It is only natural for them to do so, after all.

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    10. Yes, Holy angels are 'pure' spirit... but the Fallen Ones are dark energy, corrupt, and evil. Nothing 'pure' about them. They're all disembodied entities though, if that is what you mean by 'pure'. Our bodies (even Human ones) are corruptible; but our Human spirits which are made in God's image (Holy, Righteous) are incorruptible. So even though our bodies are subjected to Death, pain, and all sorts of suffering -- our Human spirits are immortal, because we (unlike Hybrids) have SOULS. Hybrids do not have souls, and are easily possessed by the demons for that reason. Empty vessels easily filled, etc.

      You are seeking to reconcile soul (Human spirit, mind, and emotions made in God's image, or God-like) with body. But our genetically corrupted, hybridized *bodies, since the Fall (mating with beasts), no longer live forever or even for very long times. Our Original Human bodies were created as a form of recreation for God and for ourselves. We never actually needed our bodies for anything in order to simply exist and have consciousness (to live). We only needed or used our bodies as a means for recreating Righteousness, Beauty, Truth, Love, and so on -- again and again. Before the Fall, our bodies easily healed themselves of any injuries, and our immune systems protected us from all diseases. Our minds and emotions were wholesome and undisturbed, too. We were filled with joy and peace. Humans lived forever in the Beginning (near the Origin or Creation of the Human species); and Earth then was literally our Garden. We didn't need to hunt or domesticate animals or engage in agriculture, for food. As Credo Mutwah said, we only had to reach up and pick it off the trees. We did not have to work, sweat, worry, slave, and fight constantly for our survival. We did not have money or banks, or mortgages, insurance, debts, taxes... Ahh, life was so good then, but we threw it all away because we lost our FAITH in God's mercy and wisdom. They feared *extinction (ie Death due to environmental cataclysms such as meteor strikes, volcanism, glaciation, and floods) so much that they tragically disobeyed the important commandment forbidding us to "lie [have sexual intercourse] with beasts".

      I just wish that I'd known about our genetically Fallen condition long ago. It took me too long to figure it out, because of all the secrecy and lies surrounding the subject. My life would have been much easier, had I known the whole Truth just as soon as I was old enough to understand it. People with Hybrid / bestial minds love their delusions, their fairy tales... but real Human beings care only about the Truth. The Truth doesn't hurt us, it sets us free.

      All of those ancient cosmopolitan cultures to which you allude, were Hybrid cultures. They were evil, engaging in such things as cannibalism, Human sacrifice, Blood rituals, child abuse, sexual deviance, torture, violence, wars, slavery, and every sort of imaginable abomination. And unfortunately they have maintained political power and continue to exist. They seek to dominate, and it wouldn't bother them a bit to completely wipe out the whole Human species and replace it all with bestial Hybrids; because they place no value on Humanity.

      Those high cultures were impressive, but not in any way that would benefit the best interests of Mankind. And every one of them have passed away eventually.

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    11. "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

      "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

      "And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so."

      "And God said, Let us make man[kind] in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

      "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

      Having dominion over the beasts of the earth means being superior to them in every way: intellectually, morally, and physically... By having sexual intercourse with animals, the ancient Humans made a major, irreparable genetic mistake; because one cannot be superior to something while bowing oneself down to its level... By mating with animals, they made Humans genetically equal with animals, or animals genetic equals with Humans; in other words they erased the boundaries that once existed between the species. One shouldn't mate with apes, monkeys, or even Hybrids... because one shouldn't lower oneself in that manner. Bestiality is a path of death, destruction, and of many sorrows. It has nearly decimated the entire Human species; but according to scriptures, there are remnants remaining, of true Human DNA ( that which carries the God-given Human traits of mind, spirit, emotions, morals, and therefore Human SOULS). But life is difficult for remnants; remnants are in the minority, remnants are outnumbered. Remnants are constantly being lied to and deceived by the Hybrid majority which enjoys so much ungodly, evil power and control over everything including our bodies and our habitats.

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  7. The so call “fall of Humanity” Adam and Eve and the Genetic disk
    38000 BC Adam and Eve were transported to Urantia(Earth) a world isolated by rebellion and populated with many backward human tribes. This beautiful pair of super human beings stood eight feet tall and they were trained in evolutionary biology at the system capital. The Garden of Eden was established by Adam and Eve and their children. Their mission was to upgrade the biology of the entire human race. They failed. Genesis in the Bible says they were also extremely long lived. The Sumerians Kings list describes impossibly long reigns by kings is Mesopotamia long ago. Homers description of Atlantis is inspired by and is same thing as the Garden of Eden. The descendants of Adam maintained this island of higher culture as Adamites. The human species did not Fall. The ancient golden age of Eden did exist but this small island of super human culture was quickly overcome by the human cultures that surrounded it. The genetic disk is interesting to me because of its content and the location of its discovery. It shows the evolution of humans from frogs. I believe this artifact is Andite. A culture described in the text of the Urantia book that would have had Adam and Eve’s knowledge of biology. A mix between Adamites and Nodites and the existence of this disk seems to match this passage from the book.
    "These Andites were adventurous; they had roving dispositions. An increase of either Sangik or Andonite stock tended to stabilize them. But even so, their later descendants never stopped until they had circumnavigated the globe and discovered the last remote continent. These Andites inaugurated new advances throughout Eurasia and North Africa. From Mesopotamia through Sinkiang the Andite culture was dominant, and the steady migration toward Europe was continuously offset by new arrivals from Mesopotamia. But it is hardly correct to speak of the Andites as a race in Mesopotamia proper until near the beginning of the terminal migrations of the mixed descendants of Adam. By this time even the races in the second garden had become so blended that they could no longer be considered Adamites. By 12,000 B.C. three quarters of the Andite stock of the world was resident in northern and eastern Europe, and when the later and final exodus from Mesopotamia took place, sixty-five per cent of these last waves of emigration entered Europe.
    (873.3) 78:5.7 One hundred and thirty-two of this race, embarking in a fleet of small boats from Japan, eventually reached South America and by intermarriage with the natives of the Andes established the ancestry of the later rulers of the Incas. They crossed the Pacific by easy stages, tarrying on the many islands they found along the way. The islands of the Polynesian group were both more numerous and larger then than now, and these Andite sailors, together with some who followed them, biologically modified the native groups in transit. Many flourishing centers of civilization grew up on these now submerged lands as a result of Andite penetration. Easter Island was long a religious and administrative center of one of these lost groups. But of the Andites who navigated the Pacific of long ago none but the one hundred and thirty-two ever reached the mainland of the Americas." The Urantia Book...
    132 reached the Americas which is where the genetic disk was found. I am leaning towards Urantia being a little more than pseudo-scientific. So far everywhere I look to confirm the Urantia papers I find proof of their validity. I did the same with the Bible and the two are amazingly similar.

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    1. It is obvious to me, that by tinkering with Human DNA and thereby producing wondrous monsters with which to entertain themselves, the ancient Human beings unfortunately corrupted the whole Human species, replacing an estimated 2/3 of the world's population with Hybrid individuals. Hybrids are those individuals who possess, through genetic inheritance: Hybrid minds, Hybrid emotions, Hybrid morals, and frequently some Hybrid physical features as well. Hybrids are by definition more genetically primitive than individuals with Human minds, emotions, morals, and souls -- in exactly the same manner that mules are more genetically primitive than their mare horses, yet slightly less primitive genetically than their donkey sires.

      Hybrids are more primitive and thus inferior to Human beings. But they attempt to reconcile their shortcomings in so many ways: By greedily grabbing all the resources needed for the sustenance of life... By greedily accumulating treasure... By greedily accumulating KNOWLEDGE, and by keeping truth and knowledge away from Human beings, as much as possible... By greedily indulging in all sorts of pleasure seeking and vices... By dressing in fancier, showier, better quality clothing (which they certainly purchase and do not make for themselves)... By driving the most expensive cars... By going on globe-trotting vacations... Attending feasts, balls, weddings, ceremonies, occasions, etc... By becoming famous, attention-seeking 'celebrities'... By exerting unbearable pressures, injuries, and stresses (usually economic, but also often psychological and other forms of violence) upon the Human and Hybrid slave populations... By convincing themselves that all the knowledge which they have stolen from Humanity rightly belongs to them alone... By convincing themselves that they are gods, that they are geniuses, that they are sexy, beautiful, righteous, clever, funny, royal, entitled... and so on.

      In other words, Hybrids live in a mental landscape of grandiose delusions. And one of their favorite delusions, is that Science can replace God and Righteousness. So, Hybrids use forms of pseudo science to convince the unsuspecting, trusting, or just plain ignorant -- of their Hybrid delusions. Hybrid delusions are built on pseudo-science. But anyone (ie any Human) with a true scientific mind, one who can distinguish facts and truth from hogwash, cannot for long be fooled by all the fakir-y of pseudo science. The charming, well-dressed, smooth-talking, joke-cracking Beast can't manipulate or deceive Truth-seekers for very long; they might be able to get away with it for a while... but, not forever.

      Hybrids worship the Beast, and try to cause everyone to worship it the same. It's as if their very survival depends on it. They have to create an image for themselves, one that will be accepted by the masses. By accepting the image, one accepts by default the Beast behind the image. The false image makes the Beast / Hybrids appear to be Human. Hybrids seek to present themselves as Humans; because they understand that Human beings are in fact the superior species, and that only true Human beings are entitled to rule. Hybrids seek to convince Human beings that we are not actually free, but that we instead belong to the Beast.

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    2. "The genetic disk is interesting to me because of its content and the location of its discovery. It shows the evolution of humans from frogs."

      No, it does not show the "evolution of humans from frogs". And I certainly did not say that in my blog post, either. You're jumping on the bandwagon of Hybrids making that very scientific (therefore authoritative) sounding claim. Anyone doing their research thoroughly and properly can see that it is a lie. The creatures on those disks are **monkeys and / or Human beings** (or just Hybrids). There are other representations of monkeys in those Mexican cultures which are likewise very similar to the pictures on the Genetic Disk. And since monkeys and Humans are primates, with Hybrids being both types of primates (Human and Lower) all rolled up in one package...

      Frogs do not possess Human vaginas. Those are female Hybrids being represented in the act of childbirth. Asian and Native American tribal women routinely have / had their babies by squatting down in that manner. Only to a man or an uneducated woman, would those things appear to be frogs, LMAO.

      The Genetic Disk was produced by the ancient ones as a textbook manual for Hybrid breeding and childbirth. They practiced animal husbandry, but with an awful twist: they were breeding hybrid offspring with Human mothers and monkey or ape sires. They were in fear of extinction, which is why they were so obsessed with getting the job done right. They lost all Human perspective, and just became evil as hell. That is why their massive and powerful empires eventually failed and crumbled to dust; their tribes replaced by foreign invaders. History is destined to repeat itself over and over again. In due time, our present ultra-urbane, sophisticated, technologically advanced, cosmopolitan empire will return itself right back to the Stone age again. There will be mass extinctions of the population; and perhaps in the future our replacements will dig holes in the ground and marvel at how complex our civilization was. But, the important thing is that as always they will NEVER learn from their mistakes.

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  8. The Bible and the Urantia papers
    I am not looking to overthrow the Bible I am just looking for a place to reconcile the differences between the two. I have indeed read the Bible. I always had problems with a few of the stories in its pages. Noah’s flood is one that causes problems for me. There is no geological evidence of a worldwide flood. When I say primitive I mean that humans of the past relate natural disasters and other phenomenon of nature as Gods punishment. Many past cultures practiced human and animal sacrifices to appease the angry “gods”. Abraham was about to sacrifice his only son when a celestial being intervened in the Bible providing a ram to slaughter instead. Primitive humans trying to appease their angry “gods” the Hebrew culture always sought to glorify their leaders to make them better than they were. Abraham was from a culture that practiced human sacrifice. The Israelite conquest of Canaan is also a brutal story that allows murder in god’s name. David and Solomon were murders and womanizers they both beasts. Must I go on… the Old Testament is full of primitive thinking. Anger and jealousy are emotions of animals not even worthy to be called human much less Devine.
    The New Testament is better at least Jesus fairly well described. The fatherhood of God and the Brotherhood of man is intact. Still written by men with some stories of the Devine striking people dead the angry God is still smiting the world at the end. The whole concept that Jesus had to die to offer atonement for humanity’s sins is error. Primitive humans sacrificing to the angry god that demands bloodshed or the world will end. This is just not the case
    Urantia offers a loving God who created humanity as his children. Who sends his servants time and time again to show his children a better way. Jesus came to our world to experience what it is like to be human. Part IV of the Urantia book contains a beautiful story of Jesus’s life. Jesus ministry contained 12 female apostles the Bible fails to mention them. Why? Because they were written out of the Bible by a male dominated Roman church. Humanity has chosen with its own free will follow our animal nature (Mark of the Beast). Humanity slaughters the celestial visitors when they visit our world in human form. Their messages of peace, love and humility fall on deaf ears. Humanity is in trouble; our science and population has advanced exponentially in the last two hundred years. Our spiritual and moral culture is still in the Stone Age. I do not know if they will help us in the time to come. The Urantia papers seem to be an attempt to communicate with humanity. Like so many other attempts of our celestial guardians the message falls on deaf ears. The Beast (animals in human form) rule on this world their fruits greed, sorrow, despair, destruction and death are everywhere.
    The good news is that if you learn to love your Devine Father as his Son (gender assignment are a limitation of human sexuality that I don’t believe applies to energy beings)showed humanity in his brief life on Urantia your eternal survival is assured. After all celestial beings possess the technology to bring the dead back to life. The animals of this world cease to exist and those that prove themselves humans live on forever as children of life and light.

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    1. Your closing comment is very thoughtful, so I will try to give it due justice by addressing what I consider to be the most important points which you've brought into the discussion here...

      First of all, we need not take sides or choose between the authority of either text (Urantia or the Bible). Let us instead choose the authority of TRUTH and FACTS above all else. As I've said before, no text is infallible. Only God (the Holy Spirit, Righteousness) is infallible.

      As for the Bible, too many presumptions surround the holy scriptures, coloring and distorting the truth within it. Much of the confusion comes from Church doctrine, and not from the scriptures themselves. For example:

      Nowhere in the scriptures does it claim Jews are God's chosen people. (It actually states repeatedly that ISRAEL -- in other words every tribe of Jacob, not just the few presently known as Jews -- are His People.

      All of the violence, and all of the slavery, and all of the womanizing, etc., which is described in the scriptures, is behavior of a FALLEN Human species. Much sinful behavior is related in those books of history. But the Prophets (compared to the rest of the tribe), and especially Jesus, were not sinful. If the Bible is "full of primitive thinking" it is only because the whole world since the Fall is full of it; and if you are going to talk about anything at all, you have to acknowledge the fact that the Human species has FALLEN, it is CORRUPT. If the Bible is full of primitive thinking, it is even more full of beauty and wisdom, but only for those with Human minds, hearts, and souls with the ability to recognize the truth when they see it. Truth is something that is not laid out for you on a plate and presented to you like a gift. No, Truth is rather like some buried treasure that you must seek diligently or you will never find it. Truth is like the wheat which must be winnowed from the chaff. You have to sort through all kinds of garbage in order to get to the Truth. A lot of what I've had to sort through has been shocking and just well, unpleasant to think about. But if I had ignored it or gone into denial, preferring some pretty fantasy or delusion instead of the FACTS -- then I could never have learned any truth.

      "Anger and jealousy are emotions of animals not even worthy to be called human much less Devine."

      God says about idols: "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"

      "God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day."

      Animals do not feel anger or jealousy to the same extent as Human beings. Anger and jealousy are Human emotions; and are only evil if one chooses to INDULGE in them. In other words it is evil if one ENJOYS those kinds of feelings. A rattlesnake will strike without a shred of anger or jealousy; for pleasure, to protect its territory, or for food. But rattlesnakes don't obsess on their feelings, because they have no real emotions (at least not to the extent that Humans have them).

      To be Human is to be very complex; you can't shut off feelings just because they are painful or unpleasant. Doing so only shuts down communication on all levels, even spiritually. To be Human means recognizing and dealing maturely with all of your emotions. Only psychopaths (Hybrids) have no emotions at all; sure, they don't feel anger or jealously any more than does the rattlesnake... but, they also cannot feel joy, beauty, or love.

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    2. The New Testament is a beautiful gift of love to Humanity. Jesus came here to experience his Humanity in physical form, as we do. In that way, he communed with us. He also tangibly shared his love for us, with us. But, don't confuse Church doctrines with the Truth: Jesus did NOT have to die; and he didn't die in order to atone for our sins. Jesus should not have been murdered, but because of sin and the evil corruption of the Fallen Human species, it was nevertheless inevitable. So yes, he knew that they would kill him, even before his birth... yet he didn't allow that dreadful knowledge to deter him from his mission.

      I belong to no church or any sect; instead I walk a very narrow, solitary path in my search for truth. And unlike most people I do not idolize David and Solomon, or any royalty for that matter. David and Solomon were evil men, imho. I think that king Saul, whom David constantly undermined, was a far better example of leadership than either of them. So we agree on at least some things.

      I try to avoid all forms of idolatry. And Human sacrifice and Blood rituals are also Pagan vestiges which got carried over into the religions of Judaism and State-established Christianity. The Bible text was transcribed and produced by the State + Church, and of course it naturally often does reflect the evil which is inherent in those institutions. I told you, texts are not infallible; but the Holy Spirit is infallible. Connect with the Holy Spirit, if you can, and be a Human being -- and be set free of all confusion. If you are connected to the Holy Spirit, you are free and at peace, even while inhabiting an evil world and when reading corrupted texts. The corruption and lies cannot affect you, once you've been set free spiritually. It's what they call the breast plate (or armor) of the Holy Spirit; you're protected from deception.

      Patriarchal culture is a feature of the Fallen, Hybrid condition of the Human species.

      "Humanity has chosen with its own free will follow our animal nature (Mark of the Beast)."

      Prior the the Fall of Mankind (its genetic corruption via the practices of bestial hybridism) Human beings had no "animal nature". We were pure Human beings then, with Human hearts, minds, and souls. However, you are correct in pointing out that the Mark of the Beast = animal nature (or animal DNA).

      "Humanity slaughters the celestial visitors when they visit our world in human form."

      Wrong, it is not Humanity (who were made in God's image, remember), but the Beast (the Hybrids) who slaughtered Jesus and who seek to destroy every good soul that they can get their hands on. The Beast relies on its fake Human *image to confuse us; causing us to blame Humanity, God's children, His People, His beloved and beautiful Creation for the Beast's sins. When we see some creature which appears Human, but behaves like a demon or an unfeeling psychopathic animal -- it can be awfully confusing. But when you understand that the demonically possessed, evil ones are Hybrids -- not true Humans -- it suddenly makes perfect sense.

      It's like this: If you wish to enter a dressage or jumping contest, would you choose and try to train a mule to do the job? No, you would find a horse; because only a horse has the intelligence, physique, and temperament to perform the tasks properly. You would use the hybrid mule to do hard, boring labor, like ploughing fields or pulling carts all day long. So if someone decided to enter a mule into a contest between horses, and the mule predictably lost miserably, would you say: "That ugly horse is such a loser." No, you would say instead: "Some idiot thought that he could win a contest between horses, by entering a hybrid mule..."

      Don't hire Hybrids to do jobs or tasks which call for Human traits in order to be done successfully.

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    3. "Humanity is in trouble; our science and population has advanced exponentially in the last two hundred years. Our spiritual and moral culture is still in the Stone Age."

      We've only had all this amazing technology for 200 yrs out of millions perhaps... One would think that if we were really evolving (rather than genetically deteriorating or devolving) -- we should have solved all of our problems by now. But of course that hasn't happened, not by a long shot.

      "The Beast (animals in human form) rule on this world their fruits greed, sorrow, despair, destruction and death are everywhere."

      Correct. And it is up to us to learn how to properly and accurately distinguish between Human beings and Hybrids. Without the convenience of DNA testing for it, we are compelled to rely on other rational and more practical criteria instead, such as mental traits, emotional traits, and moral traits. Just remember that the Serpent is the most subtle of all the beasts of the field... he's a seducer, a charmer, a beguiler. Like all psychopaths, the Hybrids are very good actors. They're also very easily programmed and trained by their more elite masters. They're trained to behave somewhat Human-like; while at the same time, the elite ones are also working diligently to redefine Humanity so that we would erroneously believe and accept that Humans are naturally bestial. They're trying to level the playing field, for the purpose of enslaving all of us: Humans + lower-status Hybrids.

      "The good news is that if you... love your Devine Father... your eternal survival is assured."

      That's what Jesus said, "Love the Lord thy God, and thy Neighbor, and thy Self." Because we Humans were created in God's spiritual image, we are His spiritual children. We cannot love God if we cannot love ourselves and our fellow Human beings; because if we love God we must naturally also love whom God loves. But we don't actually have to "learn" to love God, because if we are Human beings, we will naturally love our Creator the same as a Human child loves its Human parents. We love Him because we recognized ourselves in Him; and we recognize the love which He showers on us constantly. As Human beings, we can't help but to respond to that divine, spiritual love. However, if by "learn" you mean, to seek Him out, to seek out the Truth... yes. Yet again however, real Human children of God will naturally seek to learn as much as possible about God. And it is said that you cannot truly love whom you do not know. You can love on a very shallow level, whom you do not know. But the more you know about someone, especially someone good, like God -- the deeper and more complex (ie beautiful) your love for them becomes. In other words, when you love someone, you desire to learn as much as possible about them, only for the purpose of loving them more and better.

      "After all celestial beings possess the technology to bring the dead back to life."

      That's true, and don't forget that part of what we Humans are, is definitely celestial: our souls. Jesus himself told the disciples that they could perform miracles such as raising the dead and healing the sick. I'm not quite sure what you mean by technology though, because that terminology brings to my mind the idea of machines, etc. Celestial beings are not machines. They are living, intelligent, energetic entities, with their own unique personalities. Machines are mindless, programmed heaps of lifeless matter. But if used a bit more loosely, I suppose the word technology could apply here.

      "The animals of this world cease to exist and those that prove themselves humans live on forever as children of life and light."

      I think so; although not sure just how or when that will happen, but that doesn't matter anyway -- only that it will happen, that's what is most important.


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    4. I should add, that holy celestial beings do not need "technology" in the strictest sense of the meaning, for healing and other miracles... we, like our heavenly Father, need only to 'say the word'. But we must never forget where our power comes from; it doesn't come from ourselves alone, but from the creative / re-creative source: God almighty. And Jesus, our most powerful brother, and the holy angels, are always right there to help us when needed. All we have to do is call on them, having faith in their love for us. God is pure Holy Spirit / Righteousness... and the holy angels, Jesus, and all true Human beings are likewise FILLED with that same Holy Spirit. We have our God-given Human souls; and carry Holiness in our hearts and minds... But we Humans cannot be Holy all on our own... we always need to maintain our connection to our source of love, wisdom, and life: God. We wouldn't consciously wish to be cut off or separated from God anyway; as long as we don't stumble and fall entangled within the religious delusions that have been cast out to snare us by the Destroyer.

      I should also add that I believe we will have victory over the Beast because when the Hybrids die, they have no conscious souls, no holiness to form the unbreakable connection with eternal God... When their temporal, fleshly bodies die, it is over for them forever. Even when living, they are not fully alive; rather, like sheols / shills / shells -- they sleep-walk. Like actors, they simply play roles or act out their given scripts; and like monkeys, they're completely incapable of free-will.

      On the other hand, when we die we have our conscious mind / souls with which to remain connected steadfastly to our heavenly Father. We are truly blessed, but we give all praise and recognition to God. Our brother Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings... and God has likewise crowned all of us with royal gold... but, so grateful are we for His love, that we take our crowns and cast them at His feet saying, "You are most worthy Lord; so we freely choose to serve You". It's an easy yoke to carry, a burden we feel privileged to bear...

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  9. What is magic or unexplained universe phenomenon besides technology humanity doesn't understand yet? I am not talking about the material mechanical technology of this world. I am referring to the divine power the created and maintains or existence. Humans have the potential to develop into immortals each of us through the power of belief and righteous action can achieve soul survival.

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    1. (["which"]... ["has"]... my grammar's awful, especially when I get in a hurry)

      Human babies / young children are born believing in, and loving, God. But, the Hybrid World quickly destroys that faith; it seeks to rob every Human being of our very souls. Hybrids are quite jealous of our Human minds, bodies, and souls; and they passionately hate us, knowing instinctively that Humans and Hybrids are not alike, not equals.

      Likewise, true Humans are (or at least were, in the Beginning, before the entire species' DNA became so terribly corrupted) born ~physically~ immortal. There was no Death then... but the Original Sin of bestiality / hybridism introduced physical Death into the world. However, the scriptures rightly point out that while Human children of God are now accordingly subjected to physical (the First) death, by His love and mercy we are spared the Second death (of the mind / soul). Those of us with Human souls made in God's image have been granted the precious gift of ~spiritual immortality. And with that, it is possible for God to bestow upon us physical bodies again in the future, if necessary or beneficial. But I for one do not wish to be reborn into a world of Sin, I do not care to be reincarnated into this hellish world of Hybrids. Once was enough for me, thank you. Yet, if God chooses to create another Eden for us, without the Original Sin, without the Hybrids -- that's wonderful; and that does seem to be what the Bible promises happening, following Judgment Day.

      So yes, Human beings whose faith has not been successfully shattered by Satanic abuses / oppressions or by propaganda / delusions naturally ~believe~ in a good, righteous, merciful, loving God; a God who protects and will never forsake Human beings, His People. A person who loses faith, loses that belief, has essentially been somehow robbed of their ~soul~. Because our existence, our Life, is based on conscious awareness. If we lose that consciousness, it is like death itself. A dead physical body is a body which has entered into a sleep from which it will never reawaken. The body is corrupt, and passes away... but with a conscious soul there's always the hope of being provided by God with a new physical body someday.

      I don't really believe that Satan has the power to take our Human souls away from us. Our bodies are subject to abuse, injury, and death; and in that process *perhaps* we might lose our minds... but never our souls. God alone has power over our souls, and Satan cannot rightly touch them (though he tries, and also tries to convince us that it's possible for him to succeed). In fact, it might well be the case that Satan cannot take our minds, either; although it may sometimes SEEM that he has succeeded in doing so. Humans often do suffer under the deceptive delusions that are in place for the purpose of snaring / enslaving us mentally and physically. But whenever people are completely broken down spiritually or mentally, perhaps it is because they never had true Human souls and minds to start with...

      So, although our faith might become badly shaken at times, and we might occasionally become mentally confused by all the lies and hypocrisy we face in the world -- I still don't believe that any ~true~ Human being, one with a truly Human soul, mind, and emotions, would ever completely lose faith and turn against God (which is blasphemy, by the way, the Sin unto Death). As enslaved as our bodies (and even our minds) all are here on Earth, it might often SEEM that we have lost faith when in fact we are just being brutally persecuted by demonic forces.

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    2. But that only happens when we are immature, sick, injured, or otherwise weak; because as we gain proper understanding we realize soon enough that death of the body is not anything to fear; and that we were intended for something better than what has become of this World. When under the spell of deception, we unfortunately live and strive for the World, to fit into and to be accepted by the World. But once we have become mentally freed by understanding truth / reality -- we realize that it is better and even saner for us to do right by our God, because we know that our reward, our treasure, our prize... is with Him in eternal, spiritual heaven, not anywhere at all within the temporal delusion we call the World.

      That is the knowledge which has caused a significant number of martyrs to proceed with joyful hearts and peaceful minds to their untimely and horribly painful, tragic deaths. Because of the abominable, bestial Original Sin which long ago brought Evil genetically into our Earthly paradise, Satan / Lucifer the fallen angel, and his earthly possession the Hybrid Beast, now might steal the life from our physical bodies, but he can never have authority over our souls. Our Human souls belong only to God, because the Holy Spirit, the Kingdom of Heaven, dwells within our very ~hearts.

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    3. Already realizing that it's too long and parts of it have gotten placed outside of chronological order (due to the blog's restrictions on comment word-counts), I hope nevertheless that I've articulated my beliefs clearly enough; I've covered the most important points, and tried to use reasonably good grammar and vocabulary. It is just awfully difficult {especially for me with my serious health issues), to unravel all the lies that are bound up in church doctrines. And it is not just the Catholic and Protestant Christian churches, but ALL of the State established and supported religions (including Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism -- you name it, all of the organized and State-sanctioned religions), which have perpetuated the mass delusions that are so beneficial to the con-artists who proclaim themselves our rulers and leaders.

      But sometimes I just wonder if it's even worth the trouble to explain; because if people continue to worship the delusions, to idolize the lies and deceptions, rejecting the truth and their very ~freedom~ -- then they probably are not real Human beings with souls, anyway. And if so, no amount of persuasion will ever sink in.

      Perhaps I should become just a little more mature, and finally understand that real Human beings do not need me to bring them the truth after all; they already have access to it just as I did. They already can spot the lies and inconsistencies. And the Hybrid mind will never grasp Truth, not ever. But I remember how confusing all the lies were for me, for so many years of my wasted life ("my people perish for lack of knowledge"); and I hoped to help at least some truth-seekers to find their way through the darkness. But like me, they have a beacon already: Jesus Christ, the Way, the Light, and the Truth. And in due time, on their own schedules and in their own individual fashions -- they too will finally wake up and see reality before it's too late: before they end up dying within a state of confusion. After all, it is indeed a very strait and narrow path which we must tread on our journeys through this life -- that is, if we wish to maintain our sanity, and our freedom. And as I walk my path virtually alone, I respect the need for others to do the same.

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  10. "I am not talking about the material mechanical technology of this world."

    Understood; I realized early on in the discussion how you were using that term. Sorry about that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technology

    "What is magic or unexplained universe phenomenon besides technology humanity doesn't understand yet?"

    I personally believe that true Human beings are BORN with that power and knowledge; but that the world or environment we now inhabit, so dominated by the invasive, intrusive subhuman Hybrids, beats it out of us, both literally and figuratively, causing catastrophic confusion and forgetfulness. All systems set into place by the Hybrids, such as the Corporate Economy, Taxation, Public Schooling, State Established / Supported / (and Regulated) Religions, etc., also work to distract us from our inborn Humanity. We assume wrongly that we live in a Human environment, but that is far from the case; our environment is in reality a subhuman, inhumane, bestial one, stringently designed and enforced in order to *enslave everyone.

    Our divine nature is inborn; the Holy spirit is within the hearts and minds of all true Human beings. The scriptures state that His Law is written upon the very hearts and minds of His PEOPLE, and doesn't even need to be taught (as long as we haven't forgotten or become confused, enslaved -- in which case, we of course need help recovering from our spiritual injuries, and that is why Jesus came to live among us and teach us the Truth); that means that moral knowledge is in our DNA, we're born with it. So, under normal, healthy circumstances, we already possess the gifts and knowledge that we need in order to be divine children of God. We only need to learn or be taught, because of spiritual injuries caused by the Beast and the Beast-dominated World. All of Earth's governments are / were designed and controlled by them, because that's how they control us; that's how they enslave all of us (even lower-status Hybrids).

    The first step toward ending the confusion, thus being freed from the delusions ("the truth sets us free") is to understand that "we are [*not] all Humans"... Some of us are, but most are not really. As long as true Humans mistakenly look toward Hybrid leaders for guidance, we will always be led astray, away from our God-given gifts bestowed upon us by the Holy Spirit. Be not deceived by the "image of the Beast". If you are truly Human, recognize yourself reflected in the 'mirror' of God. That is how we were made in His "image"... we were made with His holy spirit, we have souls. So that when we set our attention toward, or look toward, God --- we should easily resonate with Him, because we ~Humans~ are indeed His 'children', His creation, his "chosen" People.

    "I am referring to the divine power the created and maintains or existence."

    Correct.

    "Humans have the potential to develop into immortals each of us through the power of belief and righteous action can achieve soul survival."

    Correct, except that I believe our immortality is ~inborn; that we (especially in the Beginning) already had it, but that because of Sin (especially the Original Sin of bestiality, which caused the entire Human species to Fall or devolve) we lost our immortality / it was taken away from us by the Destroyer (Deceiver / Satan, the one who persuaded us to commit that dreadful Original Sin and which caused us to experience all the other abominable sins surrounding us since that time)...

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