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Sunday, February 5, 2012

Why Many People Don't Talk Much About Their Family Histories

http://dna-forums.org/index.php?/topic/17522-are-we-afraid-to-keep-and-tell-real-family-history/page__pid__301869#entry301869

OP by GregKiroKH:

"I was just mumbling to myself why details are often left out of a family tree, but when I look into a history book so many things happened 400 years ago. Is this due to classism? Or are people really afraid to write their history?

"The Morlocks try to eat the bodies of Wenna and the other Eloi in the Novel “The Time Machine.” This is interesting because Wenna means "maiden" or "white seas (Gwendolyn)." It also is slang for good. So Wenna could mean the good sacrifice. The Eloi could be a Biblical reference to the words of Jesus on the cross which were "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?" meaning, "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me?" A Morlock generally is a German nickname for someone with black hair, Moor-Locke. The Eloi had white hair, and they lived in the light. In the Novel “The Time Machine,” the Morlocks lived in the dark, and they are sensitive to light. So, the world is filled with those who are enlightened, and those who are not. And this is the cause of all of its modern problems.

"A maiden is a young girl or an unmarried woman. Why do people marry? And what is the true story of the influence of others in getting married?

"Thomas Seymour, 1st Baron Seymour of Sudeley(~40) enjoyed the company of Princess Elizabeth (13-15). She was confused by these affairs. Sometimes she acted as if it were all a game (his romantic gestures at home, tickling her, etc.); other times she would become offended (jealousy of his brother's power and influence, abuse, etc.).

"Princess Elizabeth never married Thomas Seymour. The influence of her younger years and those around her seems to me to be some of the most influential and personally interesting constraints. Elizabeth I (1533-1603) became Queen of England in 1558 after her sister Mary died. She was jealous of Mary. When Elizabeth's sister Mary, a Catholic, came to the throne in 1553, she made England Catholic again, and Elizabeth was put into the Tower of London. To teach history better people told stories in various forms of this and other relationships.

"The historical battle has been between the meaning of marriage and social etiquette. During the sixteenth century, many institutions wanted to keep power, land, and influence over the people. Marriage distributed wealth between different populations and families. This happened most when people are from different cultural backgrounds. So, laws and social practices were created which sometimes included the elimination of the joys of marriage through affairs. However, a new breed of children was born, and they demanded to have social rights. This offended those who wanted to keep their powers. So, to help express personal feelings, holidays and literature hide personal meanings to prevent retribution and power struggles. And competition over what is a holiday, what any public presentation should be, and what marriage is continued to be a matter of social control and legislations.

"The Christmas season ends around the end of Gamelion at Candlemas, on February 2nd, 40 days after Christmas Eve. What have we learned? What can we learn? Bing Crosby and Carol Richards released the Livingston and Evans song "Silver Bells" through Decca Records in October 1950. This song was incorporated in the motion picture "The Lemon Drop Kid," filmed during July and August of 1950. Some suspected insider shenanigans as Bob Hope and Marilyn Maxwell became the first to perform the song during the movie's release in March 1951 during the beginning of the Easter season. Silver Bells and cockle shells are a part of the children's English nursery rhyme "Mary, Mary, Quite Contrary." The nursery rhyme can have the following meanings:

"Mary Mary Quite Contrary (Mary Tudor, or Bloody Mary);
The garden: Protestant martyrs;
Silver bells: thumbscrews which crushed the thumb between two hard surfaces by the tightening of a screw;
Cockle shells: instruments of torture which were attached to private parts;
Maids: Maiden, the original guillotine.

"In the Silver Bells song were have the following:
. . . Children laughing, people passing . . .
Chorus
Silver bells, silver bells
It's Christmas time in the city . . .

"Of course Noam Chomsky wrote about a lot of things, and he has influenced other writers to write what she thinks about things. The idea of woman working, and the power of woman has been of quiet interestingness in history. This has been most evident in the development of the American Mulatto. In the past, Middle Eastern and European tribes isolated themselves. But as the war developed with culture and civilianization, people needed to be subjugated. One practice was the elimination of the male population, and another was enslavement. In the American populations, many slave women were subjected to wenchery. The history of the women's suffrage movement and abolitionism led to a fictionalization of the historical record of affairs between master and slave. Lydia Maria Child wrote two short stories: "The Quadroons" (1842) and "Slavery's Pleasant Homes" (1843). These writings are thought to be the origins of the Tragic Mulatto stereotype in literature. The Villain is often the White male who abuses White women and slaves. The Mulatto is written as a person who is not accepted in the White or Black world. The Mulatto woman is often highly educated but is treated with disrespect. Sometimes, she is accepted into White society, and she falls in love with a White man. But when it is discovered that she has African ancestry, the story ends in tragedy. Other times, she is accepted as a Southern European but when she finds out about her ancestry, she loses her social standing. The general idea is that her ancestry is the problem in her relationships. The stories almost never focus on people working together to solve the problems of the world suggesting a real world experience of conflict and embattlement. As the problem enters into the movies, society is separated into groups who cannot get along with other people, people stuck in their position in life, and people trying to help other people. The Mulatto now fights against depression, drugs and alcoholism, various perversions, psychological problems, and problem number one, self-hatred. Can we ever learn of the bad things in history? Can we ever talk about bad things that really happen? Or should history be about a bunch of names, where they lived, and who they married? This is what I see; family history being so different from book history. "

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My Reply (subject to 'moderator approval'):

Stereotyping is frequently used by 'power-mongers' (ie elite, aristocratic classes, governments, or individuals, generally) for purposes of manipulating facts.  As you pointed out, they're concerned about the possibility of losing their power base(s) (entitlements, free lunches, etc.).

If a stereotype happens to be favorable or attractive for them, they'll use it to "prove" that they're good, superior, etc.

Conversely, if the power-mongers' behaviors happen to fit particularly ~negative stereotypes, they will defensively protest that their accusers are stereotyping them unfairly (or, are "prejudiced").

Furthermore, when stereotyping "Others" (ie 'strangers', 'outsiders', 'enemies', 'competitors'), power-mongers use only the most negative, derogatory descriptions.  Truth isn't important in any case: it's all about Winning (or as they would call it: "Survival"), for power-mongers.  (Apparently power-mongers have higher standards of living, materially, than less aggressive "lower classes" or "common" people; or maybe they're just not as efficient in their utilizations of available resources; and maybe it costs a lot in resources, in order to maintain power - for they require not only their fair share of the 'pie', but ours too).

Obviously a certain degree of hypocrisy is required, in order to pull it off (the propaganda, that is).  Propaganda, as we know, is a common tactic of covert war-fare (much like the widespread uses of stereotypical symbolism and ceremonial ritual, which you alluded to in your OP).

I understand why my mother never discussed being Native American (matrilineally): she didn't wish to fight against the shameful stereotypes which I too often hear.  Those stereotypes are forms of hate speech.

I'm dealing with yet more stereotypes, additionally: the one associated with being a matrilineally descended Native American who has very rare "European" (really, ~Caucasoid; which is not the exact same thing) mtDNA.

And, the one whereby my mtDNA doesn't officially 'fit' the 'standard' stereotype of "Native American" (must be A, B, C, D, or X2a -- and no others ever considered, the book is closed on that issue as far as they are concerned) -- as if the "experts" believe they already know everything there is to know about the subject.

If we NA's who do have ancient Caucasoid mtDNA should try to push the issue, they change the subject on us and start talking about "social" or "cultural" tribal membership (not based on inheritance or family ties).

They (the power-mongers) dislike talking about the fact that the very oldest Native remains found in America, are all Caucasoid, too.  We often get censored just for ~mentioning it.  Do they believe that, were it accepted information, Asian types would necessarily be excluded from the tribal rolls, just because presently most ancient Caucasoids are treated thusly?  If so that's silly, because 'Native American' by definition, simply means anyone whose ancestors were here prior to Columbus (1492).

We are also often censored, for pointing out the factual difference(s) between ancient Caucasoid mtDNA (of which, are all the ~oldest Native American haplogroups) and the more modern Indo-European ("European") groups.  Yet I've heard other posters proclaim, when hearing the suggestion that the earliest Americans were Caucasoid:  "See, we were here first!" (even knowing full well that their families' origins are in Eurasia, not in America or Western Europe)...

That's because they either don't know or choose to ignore, the fact that "Caucasoid" is not synonymous with "white", "Aryan", "Indo-European", or "Eurasian".  Another stereotype, in other words.

Reminding me that many very honest, upstanding African American families have also had their family histories negated, discredited by "experts" who have informed them (displayed on embarassing public YouTube videos and TV, no less) that because their mtDNA is (stereotypically) "European" (same as they've told me, although my mtDNA is not ~Indo-European, but is rather a very rare and ancient ~Caucasoid clade):  they "can't" have Native American ancestry, after all.

The explanation given, is that instead of Native American mtDNA, what they inherited is the mitochondria, not the yDNA ( lol ), from their ancestors' "white" (a slang term which historically means "Aryan", but which the US government and elites have long used incorrectly as an umbrella for all Europeans and Caucasians) slave-masters.

For those of us who know our people to be clear-headed and honest, such unexpected 'information' being dropped upon us like napalm, by "experts", might cause plenty of confusion, shame, etc...  So, that's why lots of people omit facts from their family histories: they don't wish to be targeted for hate speech in many cases, or for embarassment in others.

Another reason for not talking, for staying silent, or being very reticent about family history, is only slightly more benign: it's because some tribes (like most Native Americans) didn't until recently keep written records with which to provide the most powerful and influential of challengers "proof" that we're not "lying" about ourselves.  (Those without written languages relied on oral history traditions).

(Personally, I don't understand why a person should have to provide evidence that we're not "lying" -- when there's no real evidence given by accusers that we are.)

However that's not to ignore the fact that any records which were kept, often got destroyed anyway, in war-related (declared or not) ~arsons (google 'American courthouse fires since the Colonial era').

Nor is it to deny that written records may easily be ~forged (google 'identity theft'; also, forging or deliberately lying on official records may be grounds for dismissal from most jobs - although I've had past supervisors ~order me to perjure myself a few times); and that ~fraud is yet another common method or tactic employed by those in power, in order to maintain control over "Others" (read how "New Amsterdam" became "New York"; or, how Manhattan and other real estate were purchased from the Indians).

... Rendering most written records of less value, generally, than the spoken word that is accompanied by clear-headed memories and honest, caring attitudes (ie garbage in; garbage out).  So because of politics and greed, even fancy pedigrees and well-developed textual narratives may not necessarily be taken very seriously.

NOTE: I would like to add, that wars do much more damage than take lives and ruin fortunes:  they disrupt families, too.  I attribute the void of knowledge which I suffered from for most of my life, regarding my own family's history, to the many wars our people have fought since Colonial times:  we fought the Native Indians (and as a Cherokee through my mother, our family received a double-whammy from those conflicts), the French, the Spanish, the British, Pirates at sea, and one another (in the War between the States).  Did I leave any out?  Even wars not fought on our own soil cause massive confusion (whether in individuals, groups, or institutions) and conditions of very stringent material sacrifice (WWI & II, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Inquisitions, Crusades, Louis XIV's Reign of Terror, etc.), along with irreparable losses of life and property (or, of resources).

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